Posted by mykids_31206 on 11/2/2010 8:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 11/1/2010 6:42:00 PM (view original):
m_k, I'm not trying to pick a fight on this one. Honest. I want to see what you're seeing. I'd love for there to be real reform of the way the government raises its budget, and the way it spends it. But I can't find anybody from the likely incoming Congressional class who seems to have a clue how to get there.

I would have to know the basics of what you would call budget reform.

Posted by antonsirius on 11/1/2010 6:42:00 PM (view original):
m_k, I'm not trying to pick a fight on this one. Honest. I want to see what you're seeing. I'd love for there to be real reform of the way the government raises its budget, and the way it spends it. But I can't find anybody from the likely incoming Congressional class who seems to have a clue how to get there.

Fine. Assume that I do not know. I really do not care. Neither do I care to assume that you have not done a good job looking over the likely incoming Congressional class. Its just petty squabbling over which of us has the wrong idea about budget reform, unless we find some common ground. If you cannot give me your government fiscal ideals, then it does me no good to point out a candidate. Because when I point out the candidate, it will become a debate about our fiscal beliefs rather than the candidates fiscal platform.

Posted by raucous on 11/2/2010 11:57:00 AM (view original):
Reminder, Obama thinks that Americans are the enemies. 

TY!

Posted by mykids_31206 on 11/2/2010 12:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 11/1/2010 6:42:00 PM (view original):
m_k, I'm not trying to pick a fight on this one. Honest. I want to see what you're seeing. I'd love for there to be real reform of the way the government raises its budget, and the way it spends it. But I can't find anybody from the likely incoming Congressional class who seems to have a clue how to get there.

 

Fine. Assume that I do not know. I really do not care. Neither do I care to assume that you have not done a good job looking over the likely incoming Congressional class. Its just petty squabbling over which of us has the wrong idea about budget reform, unless we find some common ground. If you cannot give me your government fiscal ideals, then it does me no good to point out a candidate. Because when I point out the candidate, it will become a debate about our fiscal beliefs rather than the candidates fiscal platform.

Posted by raucous on 11/2/2010 11:57:00 AM (view original):
Reminder, Obama thinks that Americans are the enemies. 

TY!

Posted by antonsirius on 11/2/2010 10:25:00 AM (view original):

Posted by mykids_31206 on 11/2/2010 8:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 11/1/2010 6:42:00 PM (view original):
m_k, I'm not trying to pick a fight on this one. Honest. I want to see what you're seeing. I'd love for there to be real reform of the way the government raises its budget, and the way it spends it. But I can't find anybody from the likely incoming Congressional class who seems to have a clue how to get there.

I would have to know the basics of what you would call budget reform.

No, you wouldn't.

At this point I'm going to have to assume you can't answer the question.

Oh, I apologize. When you said assume, I thought you meant assume. (Imagine a calm confident tone. I dont want you to imagine this is an attack)

Posted by antonsirius on 11/2/2010 1:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by mykids_31206 on 11/2/2010 12:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 11/1/2010 6:42:00 PM (view original):
m_k, I'm not trying to pick a fight on this one. Honest. I want to see what you're seeing. I'd love for there to be real reform of the way the government raises its budget, and the way it spends it. But I can't find anybody from the likely incoming Congressional class who seems to have a clue how to get there.

 

Fine. Assume that I do not know. I really do not care. Neither do I care to assume that you have not done a good job looking over the likely incoming Congressional class. Its just petty squabbling over which of us has the wrong idea about budget reform, unless we find some common ground. If you cannot give me your government fiscal ideals, then it does me no good to point out a candidate. Because when I point out the candidate, it will become a debate about our fiscal beliefs rather than the candidates fiscal platform.

Holy crap, this is like pulling teeth.

Please try reading what I actually write, instead of what you assume I must have meant. If I were interested in a debate about our respective fiscal beliefs I'd be asking you about your fiscal beliefs.

If you're just not interested in providing the information, fine. But don't attack me for asking you for it in good faith. Knee-jerk bullshit like that is a big part of the problem.

Read the following as if stated in a calm confident tone.

I dont have to assume anything. You said that you cant find anyone from the incoming Congressional class who seems to have a clue as to how to get to real financial reform. I think that indicates a very strong sentiment. If there was one that you liked, it would obviously be like taking a shot in the dark to hit on them. I just dont think there is much of a point in showing you anyone. You come across pretty confident of how you feel. Good for you. It looks doubtful I could find a candidate that you and I would fiscally agree with.

Posted by mykids_31206 on 11/2/2010 2:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 11/2/2010 1:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by mykids_31206 on 11/2/2010 12:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 11/1/2010 6:42:00 PM (view original):
m_k, I'm not trying to pick a fight on this one. Honest. I want to see what you're seeing. I'd love for there to be real reform of the way the government raises its budget, and the way it spends it. But I can't find anybody from the likely incoming Congressional class who seems to have a clue how to get there.

 

Fine. Assume that I do not know. I really do not care. Neither do I care to assume that you have not done a good job looking over the likely incoming Congressional class. Its just petty squabbling over which of us has the wrong idea about budget reform, unless we find some common ground. If you cannot give me your government fiscal ideals, then it does me no good to point out a candidate. Because when I point out the candidate, it will become a debate about our fiscal beliefs rather than the candidates fiscal platform.

Holy crap, this is like pulling teeth.

Please try reading what I actually write, instead of what you assume I must have meant. If I were interested in a debate about our respective fiscal beliefs I'd be asking you about your fiscal beliefs.

If you're just not interested in providing the information, fine. But don't attack me for asking you for it in good faith. Knee-jerk bullshit like that is a big part of the problem.

Read the following as if stated in a calm confident tone.

I dont have to assume anything. You said that you cant find anyone from the incoming Congressional class who seems to have a clue as to how to get to real financial reform. I think that indicates a very strong sentiment. If there was one that you liked, it would obviously be like taking a shot in the dark to hit on them. I just dont think there is much of a point in showing you anyone. You come across pretty confident of how you feel. Good for you. It looks doubtful I could find a candidate that you and I would fiscally agree with.

Posted by moy23 on 11/2/2010 3:15:00 PM (view original):
read this today - fortune's 'repubs new money men'

http://money.cnn.com/2010/11/01/news/economy/ryan_issa_republicans.fortune/index.htm


basically - the masses of republican newbies coming in combined with the tea-party hype can help the old guard accomplish its fiscal goals. Interesting take I never considered.

Posted by moy23 on 11/2/2010 3:16:00 PM (view original):
btw anton, in case you didn't know.... anton knows everthing.