Posted by rlahann on 11/2/2010 3:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 11/2/2010 1:50:00 PM (view original):
Holy crap.  Awesome deal for dubbs.

You think?  Looks pretty fair.  

Hatcher is sick.

Hatcher is great...  for an AL team.  murph is in the NL unfortunately for him.

PC or AS/AA is your deterrent?

Both

Or all three.

I have superior defense across the board. I could either hide him at 1b or RF and hope his lack of range wouldnt kill me ant the other defenders can pick him up. Romano is my likely catcher of the future. In all likelihood I will find the right opportunity to trade Hatcher. I considered dropping the catchers and Mercedes from the deal altogether. Not sure if Welsh sould have gone for that..and I felt I could get more for Hatcher down the road than I gave up in that package.

Who wins this deal? Both teams are NL.

Event	Season	Height	Weight	OV	RA	GL	AS	AA	PC	DU	HE	SP	PA	TP	MK
Current	-	5-11	206	54	25	25	31	30	10	59	95	60	52	99	86
Projected	-	6-1	224	78	27	41	35	46	16	77	99	60	67	98	95

Event	Season	CN	PW	LH	RH	BE	BR	BU	PP	ST	CT	LH	RH	VE	GB	P1	P2	P3	P4	P5
Current	-	53	87	43	50	63	29	24	42	21	13	16	14	13	17	35	0	0	0	0
Projected	-	81	100	68	79	78	42	38	49	25	24	29	24	13	19	40	0	0	0	0

OR 

Event	Season	Height	Weight	OV	RA	GL	AS	AA	PC	DU	HE	SP	PA	TP	MK
Current	-	6-0	184	68	81	67	63	49	6	74	52	94	71	32	94
Projected	-	6-0	191	83	89	87	66	66	10	82	62	94	80	31	100

Event	Season	CN	PW	LH	RH	BE	BR	BU	PP	ST	CT	LH	RH	VE	GB	P1	P2	P3	P4	P5
Current	-	44	54	43	69	68	71	38	31	42	5	8	7	19	17	42	0	0	0	0
Projected	-	59	59	55	90	79	97	49	33	46	9	11	9	19	19	49	0	0	0	0

Clearly the DH has the better bat, but what value does he have in the NL? And is the CF good enough of a return to move him?

 

Both are S/L.

Posted by dmurphy104 on 11/2/2010 4:07:00 PM (view original):
I have superior defense across the board. I could either hide him at 1b or RF and hope his lack of range wouldnt kill me ant the other defenders can pick him up. Romano is my likely catcher of the future. In all likelihood I will find the right opportunity to trade Hatcher. I considered dropping the catchers and Mercedes from the deal altogether. Not sure if Welsh sould have gone for that..and I felt I could get more for Hatcher down the road than I gave up in that package.

RF?  That is crazy talk.  He would half 40 - plays..

Posted by r0b0t on 11/2/2010 4:12:00 PM (view original):

Who wins this deal? Both teams are NL.

Event	Season	Height	Weight	OV	RA	GL	AS	AA	PC	DU	HE	SP	PA	TP	MK
Current	-	5-11	206	54	25	25	31	30	10	59	95	60	52	99	86
Projected	-	6-1	224	78	27	41	35	46	16	77	99	60	67	98	95

Event	Season	CN	PW	LH	RH	BE	BR	BU	PP	ST	CT	LH	RH	VE	GB	P1	P2	P3	P4	P5
Current	-	53	87	43	50	63	29	24	42	21	13	16	14	13	17	35	0	0	0	0
Projected	-	81	100	68	79	78	42	38	49	25	24	29	24	13	19	40	0	0	0	0

OR 

Event	Season	Height	Weight	OV	RA	GL	AS	AA	PC	DU	HE	SP	PA	TP	MK
Current	-	6-0	184	68	81	67	63	49	6	74	52	94	71	32	94
Projected	-	6-0	191	83	89	87	66	66	10	82	62	94	80	31	100

Event	Season	CN	PW	LH	RH	BE	BR	BU	PP	ST	CT	LH	RH	VE	GB	P1	P2	P3	P4	P5
Current	-	44	54	43	69	68	71	38	31	42	5	8	7	19	17	42	0	0	0	0
Projected	-	59	59	55	90	79	97	49	33	46	9	11	9	19	19	49	0	0	0	0

D would be tolerable at 1B.  2B/CF is solid on D I think I would rather have the 1B/DH.

So you are wondering if I would have gone for Stark for Charles/Bong...probably...I dont really like Sterns and will try to move him along.  I'll trade you sterns and Mercedes for Hatcher.

Posted by robusk on 11/2/2010 4:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dmurphy104 on 11/2/2010 4:07:00 PM (view original):
I have superior defense across the board. I could either hide him at 1b or RF and hope his lack of range wouldnt kill me ant the other defenders can pick him up. Romano is my likely catcher of the future. In all likelihood I will find the right opportunity to trade Hatcher. I considered dropping the catchers and Mercedes from the deal altogether. Not sure if Welsh sould have gone for that..and I felt I could get more for Hatcher down the road than I gave up in that package.

RF?  That is crazy talk.  He would half 40 - plays..

Word.  Murph, you being commish of an HBD world is like Rob running a chapter of AA.

It's a shame Riggan wouldn't waive his no trade.

Posted by robusk on 11/2/2010 4:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dmurphy104 on 11/2/2010 4:07:00 PM (view original):
I have superior defense across the board. I could either hide him at 1b or RF and hope his lack of range wouldnt kill me ant the other defenders can pick him up. Romano is my likely catcher of the future. In all likelihood I will find the right opportunity to trade Hatcher. I considered dropping the catchers and Mercedes from the deal altogether. Not sure if Welsh sould have gone for that..and I felt I could get more for Hatcher down the road than I gave up in that package.

RF?  That is crazy talk.  He would half 40 - plays..

So 20?

Posted by robusk on 11/2/2010 4:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dmurphy104 on 11/2/2010 4:07:00 PM (view original):
I have superior defense across the board. I could either hide him at 1b or RF and hope his lack of range wouldnt kill me ant the other defenders can pick him up. Romano is my likely catcher of the future. In all likelihood I will find the right opportunity to trade Hatcher. I considered dropping the catchers and Mercedes from the deal altogether. Not sure if Welsh sould have gone for that..and I felt I could get more for Hatcher down the road than I gave up in that package.

RF?  That is crazy talk.  He would half 40 - plays..

just thinking aloud...Ive never tried a player like him in RF. There was a long thread on where to hide your poor defenders--I thought there was good argument for putting them in RF..Few chances..Particularly if you have a CF with superior range it might do the least damage. That could be a decent ST experiment if I cant find an example elsewhere. I do take defense seriously, particularly +/- Had 90 + and 22- last season--the best differential in the league.

(Was Bret playing left handed infielders? (105 negative plays))

If I didnt have Romano--who projects very well offensively--only a bit below Hatcher, but is superior defensively, Id have no problem with Hatcher at C. You would more than make up for his average defensive skills with the superior bat.

Posted by rlahann on 11/2/2010 4:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 11/2/2010 4:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dmurphy104 on 11/2/2010 4:07:00 PM (view original):
I have superior defense across the board. I could either hide him at 1b or RF and hope his lack of range wouldnt kill me ant the other defenders can pick him up. Romano is my likely catcher of the future. In all likelihood I will find the right opportunity to trade Hatcher. I considered dropping the catchers and Mercedes from the deal altogether. Not sure if Welsh sould have gone for that..and I felt I could get more for Hatcher down the road than I gave up in that package.

RF?  That is crazy talk.  He would half 40 - plays..

Word.  Murph, you being commish of an HBD world is like Rob running a chapter of AA.

good one