Posted by robusk on 11/18/2010 11:15:00 AM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 11/18/2010 11:01:00 AM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 11/18/2010 10:48:00 AM (view original):
Also, I don't understand the nonsense that Chavez will be under an awful contract the next two years.  He hasn't dropped off too significantly even though pimp had a crappy training budget prior to this year....  he has a makeup of 95 and b0t will have a max training budget.  He will still be AS caliber for the next 2.5 seasons.

Nobody needs to know that.

The only people paying attention already approved it...  but they should have seen that on their own.

I am not changing anything at this point.

Posted by AlCheez on 11/18/2010 11:17:00 AM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 11/18/2010 11:15:00 AM (view original):

Posted by r0b0t on 11/18/2010 11:01:00 AM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 11/18/2010 10:48:00 AM (view original):
Also, I don't understand the nonsense that Chavez will be under an awful contract the next two years.  He hasn't dropped off too significantly even though pimp had a crappy training budget prior to this year....  he has a makeup of 95 and b0t will have a max training budget.  He will still be AS caliber for the next 2.5 seasons.

Nobody needs to know that.

The only people paying attention already approved it...  but they should have seen that on their own.

I am not changing anything at this point.

I haven't approved it yet... I rarely actually hit the approve button - a tactic you should probably employ for deals you approve of apparently...

Posted by winepimp on 11/18/2010 11:16:00 AM (view original):
on a side note, 137 yr old greg oden out again for another year

Posted by robusk on 11/18/2010 11:14:00 AM (view original):

Posted by AlCheez on 11/18/2010 10:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 11/18/2010 10:48:00 AM (view original):
Also, I don't understand the nonsense that Chavez will be under an awful contract the next two years.  He hasn't dropped off too significantly even though pimp had a crappy training budget prior to this year....  he has a makeup of 95 and b0t will have a max training budget.  He will still be AS caliber for the next 2.5 seasons.

His power numbers have already taken a dive, and even with a high training budget, at 35-36 he's going to take more big hits to his power - plus his DUR will continue to dive, impacting how much he can play at 100%. I don't think he's a total wasteland by the end of the deal (honestly, I missed the 95 makeup originally), but I don't think he's going to be worth what he's getting as a 1B/DH over the next two years of the deal.

His Eye, vR, vL will be almost unchanged while contact suffers a little and power will drop into the mid to low 70's.  DUR is overrated.  He will be a solid contributor at those numbers at 36.

Posted by AlCheez on 11/18/2010 11:22:00 AM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 11/18/2010 11:14:00 AM (view original):

Posted by AlCheez on 11/18/2010 10:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 11/18/2010 10:48:00 AM (view original):
Also, I don't understand the nonsense that Chavez will be under an awful contract the next two years.  He hasn't dropped off too significantly even though pimp had a crappy training budget prior to this year....  he has a makeup of 95 and b0t will have a max training budget.  He will still be AS caliber for the next 2.5 seasons.

His power numbers have already taken a dive, and even with a high training budget, at 35-36 he's going to take more big hits to his power - plus his DUR will continue to dive, impacting how much he can play at 100%. I don't think he's a total wasteland by the end of the deal (honestly, I missed the 95 makeup originally), but I don't think he's going to be worth what he's getting as a 1B/DH over the next two years of the deal.

His Eye, vR, vL will be almost unchanged while contact suffers a little and power will drop into the mid to low 70's.  DUR is overrated.  He will be a solid contributor at those numbers at 36.

Seeing the 95 makeup - I can probably sign-off solid contributor at 1B/DH - it will at least be close. But I've found that dip into the 70s in power to pretty rough for the guys who were once 90+, and you started at AS caliber.

Posted by tylermathias on 11/18/2010 10:59:00 AM (view original):
Moy; Fregoe:

www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20385926_20442931,00.html

Posted by r0b0t on 11/18/2010 11:35:00 AM (view original):
I'd like to move Flacco for a receiver in the auction league...