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Posted by robusk on 12/1/2010 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by AlCheez on 12/1/2010 12:51:00 PM (view original):
Mink is apparently what you would get if you combined old school bret's ability to identify and acquire talent with moy's ability to manage/maintain it.
I think there was some tanking in there too.
I'm not tanking.  I've snafued my budget for this season and need money to sign players, add a FA pitcher or 2 to hopefully get back to 500.  

I was waiting for a player to come of the DL which made Sanchez more expendable, now he has I've traded him and his large 5 year contract to get a RP who will help me in the future.  I've got more depth in the position players v pitchers coming up through the minors.


12/1/2010 1:54 PM
this is what I now see Fister as, his defense dropped considerably:

Event Season Height Weight OV RA GL AS AA PC DU HE SP PA TP MK
Current - 6-1 175 45 62 46 46 42 15 42 57 97 46 33 56
Projected - 6-1 192 80 76 75 56 67 26 72 62 99 61 33 60
Time of Draft 18 6-1 175 45 62 46 46 42 15 42 57 97 46 33 56
Batting & Pitching Ratings
Event Season CN PW LH RH BE BR BU PP ST CT LH RH VE GB P1 P2 P3 P4 P5
Current - 58 53 51 33 54 33 26 33 15 8 9 12 4 19 36 0 0 0 0
Projected - 92 67 83 56 70 59 42 40 18 11 15 21 4 23 44 0 0 0 0
Time of Draft 18 58 53 51 33 54 33 26 33 15 8 9 12 4 19 36 0 0 0 0
12/1/2010 1:58 PM
Yeah, that's pretty much how my scouts saw him.
12/1/2010 1:58 PM
I guess Dingman is alright... think I shoulda grabbed Ramirez who went 21, and I wish I saw Edmonds
12/1/2010 1:59 PM
When bret consulted me on the trade, I wanted to offer more myself but I realized that would be nefarious. I let bret have the victory. I got that one guy from Nellie on similar grounds.
12/1/2010 2:17 PM
Posted by robusk on 12/1/2010 12:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by r0b0t on 12/1/2010 12:07:00 PM (view original):
And neither one is **** Bomber.

I will probably trade each.
I mean, I figured you would...

It is really hard to trade DHs, much less get value out of them.
I have in the past. Not everyone values the right stuff to get these bats in the draft, and if they're groomed appropriately, someone looking for power might have an offer in a few seasons. They'll hold some value.
12/1/2010 2:19 PM
Posted by AlCheez on 12/1/2010 12:51:00 PM (view original):
Mink is apparently what you would get if you combined old school bret's ability to identify and acquire talent with moy's ability to manage/maintain it.
Well stated.
12/1/2010 2:22 PM
Posted by blackmink18 on 12/1/2010 1:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 12/1/2010 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by AlCheez on 12/1/2010 12:51:00 PM (view original):
Mink is apparently what you would get if you combined old school bret's ability to identify and acquire talent with moy's ability to manage/maintain it.
I think there was some tanking in there too.
I'm not tanking.  I've snafued my budget for this season and need money to sign players, add a FA pitcher or 2 to hopefully get back to 500.  

I was waiting for a player to come of the DL which made Sanchez more expendable, now he has I've traded him and his large 5 year contract to get a RP who will help me in the future.  I've got more depth in the position players v pitchers coming up through the minors.


Yeah, that RP's improvement leveled off a few seasons ago. You can't anticipate him being near those projections. He was doomed when gin had him in AAA at 19.
12/1/2010 2:24 PM
For a 6th season minor leaguer, he's progressed nicely this season, but yeah, I dont expect him to come anywhere close to the numbers he's projected at.  Was he a DITR?
12/1/2010 2:45 PM
Posted by r0b0t on 12/1/2010 2:19:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 12/1/2010 12:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by r0b0t on 12/1/2010 12:07:00 PM (view original):
And neither one is **** Bomber.

I will probably trade each.
I mean, I figured you would...

It is really hard to trade DHs, much less get value out of them.
I have in the past. Not everyone values the right stuff to get these bats in the draft, and if they're groomed appropriately, someone looking for power might have an offer in a few seasons. They'll hold some value.
It took you like 3 seasons to trade Hartman and he is way better than either of those guys.

Even then, I think you had to couple him with a couple of other guys to get the guy you landed.

I am not saying you can't do it, but it is much harder to get the value you think you should with DH's.
12/1/2010 2:55 PM
Posted by r0b0t on 12/1/2010 2:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by blackmink18 on 12/1/2010 1:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 12/1/2010 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by AlCheez on 12/1/2010 12:51:00 PM (view original):
Mink is apparently what you would get if you combined old school bret's ability to identify and acquire talent with moy's ability to manage/maintain it.
I think there was some tanking in there too.
I'm not tanking.  I've snafued my budget for this season and need money to sign players, add a FA pitcher or 2 to hopefully get back to 500.  

I was waiting for a player to come of the DL which made Sanchez more expendable, now he has I've traded him and his large 5 year contract to get a RP who will help me in the future.  I've got more depth in the position players v pitchers coming up through the minors.


Yeah, that RP's improvement leveled off a few seasons ago. You can't anticipate him being near those projections. He was doomed when gin had him in AAA at 19.
Yeah, that was the first think I looked at.  He has more pro years than the dude mink gave up.
12/1/2010 2:55 PM
I am attempting to cook a Jewish dinner tonight to surprise my girlfriend who will be getting home late.

This ought to be interesting.

dubbs/tisi around to throw out ideas/suggestions?
12/1/2010 2:57 PM
Potato Latkas and Brisket
12/1/2010 2:58 PM
bacon
12/1/2010 3:01 PM
Yeah, I was thinking Latkes with salmon and applesauce, plus some sort of roasted chicken.  She only started eating chicken again a couple of week ago.  Don't think beef is possible.  Not sure what they do for vegetables and stuff.
12/1/2010 3:02 PM
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