Tea Party 4-18-11 Topic

For swamp. FTFY means "Foxed that for you"
12/13/2010 4:26 PM
12/13/2010 4:29 PM
Posted by genghisxcon on 12/13/2010 4:26:00 PM (view original):
For swamp. FTFY means "Foxed that for you"
I cannot respond to swamp with any evidence or rational thought so I will make up some bad joke!

FTFY!
12/13/2010 4:51 PM
rational thought is lost on you
12/13/2010 4:53 PM
I am having multiple conversations with people across these forums.

Begs the question is it you or me?
12/13/2010 6:20 PM

Mitt Romney's editorial in USAToday is absurd on many levels, but it's a shrewd political move for a guy who wants to pull the Tea Party away from Sarah Palin's grip. Among the more ridiculous things he says:

In this, as in so many other arenas of government policy, unemployment insurance has many unintended effects. The indisputable fact is that unemployment benefits, despite a web of regulations, actually serve to discourage some individuals from taking jobs, especially when the benefits extend across years.

Let me translate: The unemployed are lazy, on-the-dole idiots who won't work as janitors at McDonald's. I refer him to Susie Madrak's elegant and passionate retort as evidence of how wrong he is.

In order to twist his way out of the pickle he's in, he suggests "individual unemployment savings accounts". No, really. He does.

To remedy such problems we need a very different model, perhaps establishing individual unemployment savings accounts over which employees would exercise direct control when they lose their jobs, or putting in place financial incentives for employers to hire and train the long-term unemployed.

Let me see if I have this right. In order to prevent government spending on the unemployed he is proposing...government spending in the form of tax incentives? And this will somehow save money how? Of course it won't and he knows that, but it plays like a waltz with the Tea Party who is all about individual responsibility and the like.

There's more nonsense there, but you get the idea. In order to be viable, Romney will have to run sharply right to cut Sarah Palin and her fans off. He will likely succeed. He will present himself in 2012 as an intelligent, well-spoken candidate and possibly co-opt the faith community in an effort to minimize his Mormonism, which hurt him badly in the 2008 election. He will count on sustained Tea Party anger, mostly whipped into a frenzy by the likes of Judson Phillips, FreedomWorks, and the architects of manufactured outrage as a basis for snagging media minutes and sound bites.

And if he is elected, he will disappoint them all while doing enough harm to this nation that it may not be reparable.

12/15/2010 11:59 AM
Irrepairable harm.  That has been the last 10 years.  I don't know how much more harm he can do.
12/15/2010 2:40 PM
So now cutting taxes is the same as giving people money?
12/15/2010 4:51 PM
Congratulations Wisconsin and Ohio!

Your new Tea Party Governors have shut down high speed rail projects in their states, sending thousands of jobs, millions of dollars in economic development and millions more in tax revenue to states such as California, Florida and Illinois.  As a resident of Illinois, I would like to personally thank you for this wonderful Christmas gift.


12/15/2010 7:59 PM

These light rail projects are all jokes. You asked for the Tea Party to start practicing what they preach, here it is.

These projects are just make work. It is paying people to build something that isnt needed or wanted.

This is why we are in debt. People like Creilman happy that his state can get more "Free" money from the feds!

12/15/2010 8:20 PM
And it's just that kind of ignorance and narrow-mindedness that will keep this country in a continuous state of deterioration.  You right wingers always want to run this country like a business, well, there's a philosophy in business that you have to spend money to make money.  This investment would have created thousands of jobs on the rail construction and operation alone, but that's just the beginning.  Rail stations create economic development in their immediate area. Madison, WI, for example, will lose out on dozens of new businesses and hotels. now that this project is dead.  Businesses and hotels that would have created jobs and tax revenue.....gone.  Tourism dollars from visitors from Chicago, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, etc......gone.  Plus these rail upgrades also improve speed and efficiency for freight rail, which is a huge cost benefit for business all over the country.

But hey, don't let any of that stand in the way of making a misguided philosophical point.
12/15/2010 8:42 PM
Back when the Republican Party was American Pres. Eisenhower created the interstate highway system. You think the right wing would allow that to happen today? Not likely!
12/15/2010 10:45 PM
Hell, I would love to see more rail system options everywhere.  What better way to get people out of their cars, cut down on some of the pollution emitted by cars - but then that would be sort of like saving the environment and the TeaPartiers & Repubs can't have that.
12/15/2010 11:23 PM
Arguing the benefits to the environment is useless when dealing with the right.  Everything must be framed in profit.
12/15/2010 11:30 PM
Posted by swamphawk22 on 12/15/2010 4:51:00 PM (view original):
So now cutting taxes is the same as giving people money?
Yes.  It's really not that complicated.
12/16/2010 1:07 AM
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