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They may be the most idstrusted. If you look you will see that of the private networks they are the most trusted.

Another way to look at it is they are all trusted in a similar way. All are in the same area. FOX is just another news group to the average American.

2/20/2011 3:11 AM
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Notice that it is the PUBLIC Broadcasting Network that people trust most.  Maybe they are starting to realize that corporate news outlets are not reliable news outlets. And the jig is definitely up for FOX and the crap that they spew.
2/20/2011 10:31 AM
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Posted by creilmann on 2/20/2011 10:31:00 AM (view original):
Notice that it is the PUBLIC Broadcasting Network that people trust most.  Maybe they are starting to realize that corporate news outlets are not reliable news outlets. And the jig is definitely up for FOX and the crap that they spew.
This is the point I always address.

Fox news is the 2nd most trusted, and even their mistrusted ratings are similar to other outlets. They all have similar ratings, but you still try to portray FOX as being so biased that everyone knows it. It isnt an issue, they are liars.

How can so many Ameircans be so stupid and a handful of liberals be so wise??
2/20/2011 1:20 PM
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You assume that it is just liberals that don't rust FOX.  Independents don't either.

Conservatives rally around FOX.  If you look at their viewership by political party, it's conservatives that prop it up.  Liberals and Independents appear to be more skeptical of corporate media in general and do not gravitate towards one outlet.  Therefore, there loyalty is spread out amongst many outlets.  Conservatives concentrate themselves into one outlet.
2/20/2011 3:28 PM
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Nice generalizations.   People watch what they want to hear.   There is one "conservative" network so that's what the conservatives watch. 

Don't act like liberals are great thinkers seeking many answers.  They're just watching liberal networks so they have several choices.

You're making swamphawk look smart.   And that's a hard thing to do.
2/20/2011 3:58 PM
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For all the people that have used the term Corporate media.

Everyone watches corporate media. The 3 networks, the 5 cable news networks, local newspapers and some big web sites are what 99% of America uses for news.

There is no revolution against corporate media.
2/21/2011 4:25 AM
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Ah, of course.  The great myth of the liberal media.  Can you explain what that means exactly?
2/21/2011 12:02 PM
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Sure.  I assume you think FOX leans towards the conservatives.    Well, the rest lean the other way.   Now, if you going to deny that you think FOX is a conservative network, I guess we'll discuss this further.   If not, I think we're done. 
2/21/2011 1:17 PM
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That is not an argument on the liberal media myth, it's a dodge.  So I guess if you have no real explanation for your belief then we're done.
2/21/2011 1:46 PM
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It's not a myth unless, of course, you're denying that you believe FOX is a conservative media source. 
2/21/2011 1:49 PM
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If it's not a myth then you should have no problem arguing your point.  My views on FOX don't really play into the matter.  
2/21/2011 2:10 PM
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Sure they do.  You're pretending that conservatives lean to FOX because FOX leans conservative but you're weakly denying, and making swamp look smart, that liberals gravitate towards the other networks because they're sending the message they want to hear.   It's human nature to watch something that confirms your beliefs. 
2/21/2011 2:21 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 2/20/2011 3:58:00 PM (view original):
Nice generalizations.   People watch what they want to hear.   There is one "conservative" network so that's what the conservatives watch. 

Don't act like liberals are great thinkers seeking many answers.  They're just watching liberal networks so they have several choices.

You're making swamphawk look smart.   And that's a hard thing to do.
Actually, the study backed up creilmann's point. It didn't ask which network you trusted most and which you trusted least, so there was no problem of splitting the vote among several choices. In every case, the results for moderates were more similar to those for liberals than to those for conservatives. The five results displaying the most extreme trust/distrust were the five conservative results.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_126.pdf

Also, a piece of advice. In a thread in which you claimed that legalizing murder would have no effect on murder rates, it is probably a bad idea to cast aspersions on anyone else's intelligence.
2/21/2011 2:50 PM
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Sorry, legalizing murder wouldn't turn the world into the wild west.    Joe Schmoe who doesn't have the nads to put holes in people now won't develop bigger nads.

I also wouldn't put too much stock into polls.  There's no way to know if it was a fair poll or one that was biased.   If I want to know if rap is destroying America's youth, I poll a bunch of bluehairs or gangstas to get the result I want. 

2/21/2011 3:04 PM
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As I said before, if you guys want to sit around and think you're badasses who'd be offing people if only it were legal, who am I to kill your fantasy?   But it is fantasy. 
2/21/2011 3:23 PM
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