Posted by antonsirius on 6/8/2011 6:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by swamphawk22 on 6/8/2011 4:40:00 PM (view original):

So here is  great example of Anton's verbal tap dancing.

He makes an attack against me and then posts about Korbyzski's theory about the correct uses of the verb "To Be". The clear implication here is that I am doing it wrong.

I will admit he never actually said the words "You are using the verb, To Be, wrong". He just explained the way I am using it and the way he feels it should be used. When I call him on it he claims he never said it!

Can anyone be more of a piece of garbage liar??

 

I offered you a suggestion on how you could communicate more clearly.

That doesn't mean the way you're communicating now is wrong. It just means you could improve on it -- just like I could improve on it, and everybody on the entire planet could improve on it.

Or are you suggesting that your communication skills are perfect?

Odd that in the two and a half days, swamp hasn't had anything to say in response to this.

Posted by antonsirius on 6/11/2011 12:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 6/8/2011 6:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by swamphawk22 on 6/8/2011 4:40:00 PM (view original):

So here is  great example of Anton's verbal tap dancing.

He makes an attack against me and then posts about Korbyzski's theory about the correct uses of the verb "To Be". The clear implication here is that I am doing it wrong.

I will admit he never actually said the words "You are using the verb, To Be, wrong". He just explained the way I am using it and the way he feels it should be used. When I call him on it he claims he never said it!

Can anyone be more of a piece of garbage liar??

 

I offered you a suggestion on how you could communicate more clearly.

That doesn't mean the way you're communicating now is wrong. It just means you could improve on it -- just like I could improve on it, and everybody on the entire planet could improve on it.

Or are you suggesting that your communication skills are perfect?

Odd that in the two and a half days, swamp hasn't had anything to say in response to this.

I think I folded the response into another one so lets respond clearly.

I think everyone here knows your realtionship with me. Our little feud actually predates my memory of it, going back to my carryover reform days.

I think the idea that you called me on this as a friendly gesture seems a tad shallow.

And again the point you make seems to make me speak in a way incongruent with the population in general. While I admit that verbal debate seems to work better for me, I do grasp that people are less friendly towards people who do not talk like they do.

I admit freely that I have not always communicated to the best of my ability on these boards, and I am not perfect to start with.

Are you still maintaining that this was a good natured "grammar" lesson?

Posted by greeny9 on 6/11/2011 11:55:00 AM (view original):

Posted by swamphawk22 on 5/31/2011 2:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 5/31/2011 6:53:00 AM (view original):
I just kept it going long enough for you to refute your report.

It's not easy to get someone to argue against themselves.

I dont think I ever did that. I was on the side of truth.

I stand by the belief that if you cannot find data supporting your position on the internet you are probably wrong.

But Swamp, I have had numerous conversations with you on these very boards, and honestly I cant think of more then once or twice where you came up with a credible website link that supports your opinions.  It seems like the vast vast majority of links you provide go to very obviously biased sources like Faux news.  Meanwhile the links I have provided are indisputable.

More to the point the vast majority of the "facts" you like to claim have absolutely no links whatsoever to prove your point. 

I have called people on what is credible.

I have been told that quoting Fox News, WSJ and the Christian Science Monitor as being unacceptable.

On the flip side if I question someone quoting the NY Times I am portrayed as a paranoid waco.

So how are we defining credible?

Posted by swamphawk22 on 6/11/2011 1:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 6/11/2011 12:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by antonsirius on 6/8/2011 6:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by swamphawk22 on 6/8/2011 4:40:00 PM (view original):

So here is  great example of Anton's verbal tap dancing.

He makes an attack against me and then posts about Korbyzski's theory about the correct uses of the verb "To Be". The clear implication here is that I am doing it wrong.

I will admit he never actually said the words "You are using the verb, To Be, wrong". He just explained the way I am using it and the way he feels it should be used. When I call him on it he claims he never said it!

Can anyone be more of a piece of garbage liar??

 

I offered you a suggestion on how you could communicate more clearly.

That doesn't mean the way you're communicating now is wrong. It just means you could improve on it -- just like I could improve on it, and everybody on the entire planet could improve on it.

Or are you suggesting that your communication skills are perfect?

Odd that in the two and a half days, swamp hasn't had anything to say in response to this.

I think I folded the response into another one so lets respond clearly.

I think everyone here knows your realtionship with me. Our little feud actually predates my memory of it, going back to my carryover reform days.

I think the idea that you called me on this as a friendly gesture seems a tad shallow.

And again the point you make seems to make me speak in a way incongruent with the population in general. While I admit that verbal debate seems to work better for me, I do grasp that people are less friendly towards people who do not talk like they do.

I admit freely that I have not always communicated to the best of my ability on these boards, and I am not perfect to start with.

Are you still maintaining that this was a good natured "grammar" lesson?

Yes, and it's one you finally seem to be getting. Good job.

So we can drop it all?

Or can we ask this question....

If your actions do not allow me to accuratly call you a CP liberal, why do my actions allow you to call me a racist?

Clearly your history is deeper on this issue.

1 If that's your definition of a cocktail party liberal, then there's not a single thing in there that applies to me. Not one thing, swamp. That version of anton you have is completely and utterly a figment of your imagination.

2 No, swamp. The specific justifications you used to defend Bolling echo those commonly used by racists. I have told you this repeatedly, and you continue to try and twist my words to escape that connection.

3 You are delusional, or lying. Doesn't matter which at this point.

Actually, looking back at all three the whole thing is one big form of projection:

• You're the isolated one, swamp, who only talks or listens to liberals who fit your preconception of what a "liberal" is (i.e. the Ed Schultzs of the world), and who doesn't allow anything they say to actually sway your opinions. You trust a cesspool of crap like WND before you trust the word of anyone you think is tainted by liberalism.
• You say I focus on technicalities in an effort to avoid the 'big picture' argument, yet that's exactly what you're attempting to do to avoid being labeled a racist.
• And you say my whole world is tied up in this argument, yet you're the one who continually used grandiose language that implied you think the fate of conservatism, America and maybe the entire planet rests on your ability to win an argument on a sports message board.

1 Let me rexamine the facts...Nope nailed you.

2 The flaw in your theiry is that it is possible that a racist might use these words, it is also possible and even more probable that someone who is in no way a racists would use them. An similar example of this is a girl who is trying to create sexual tension between her and her boyfriend might say "I dont want to have sex with you tonight". On the flip side a woman who doesnt want to have sex with a man might say "I dont want to have sex with you tonight". Your words, that you claim are like a raicst, are not really racist at all.

3 I have made every attempt to get to know you and understand your positions and world views. You always refused. At that point I went with best available evidence. On the flip side I make my views known and never try to hide my beliefs. It makes me an easy target for people like you but honesty is my mantra.

1 Nope, you didn't. And every time you've been challenged to back up your "cocktail party liberal" lie about me with links to things i've said that match the description you just gave, you've failed to do so. Put up or shut up, *******.

2 That's not a flaw in my interpretation. It's bullshit obfuscation on your part.

3 I have no problem sharing my views on issues on these boards. You just ignore them because they don't fit with what you think the imaginary anton in your head should be saying.

1 As I siad you keep your specific belief structure pretty close to the vest but the things you have stated have allowed me to create a possible, but imperfect, profile of you. You have spoken very critically of conservatives with tea party support and spoken more understanding of more centrist conservatives with a more academic backround. You show open hostility for people who criticize Obama, a left leaning leader. You cannot seem to forgive even minor rhetoric from the right, but ignore any rhetoric from the left. You will criticize a supporter of your own views if he uses populist tactics and does not show any intellectual leanings.

2 This is still my defining point. You claim I act like a racist based on things that are in no way unique to a racist. If Emperor Palpatine brushes and flosses three times a day does that make good dental hygine a Sith trait? (again since we cannot use Hitler)

3 Black Pot Alert!! You always shoose to ignore anything about me that does not neatly fit in your analysis of me.

Well thank you. You can start sitemailing your support for me with the rest of my fans!