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And I dont think anyone is saying the voice makes them unelectable, just a reason it may be harder for them to get traction from the start and a reson for some people to never come around.
7/10/2011 3:03 PM
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Lack of common sense makes them unelectable swamp.
7/10/2011 5:52 PM
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Posted by rcrusso on 7/10/2011 5:52:00 PM (view original):
Lack of common sense makes them unelectable swamp.
Common Sense?

I think we can all agree that  harvard Law Professors are not known for their common sense. Advantage Palin!
7/10/2011 5:59 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 7/10/2011 11:26:00 AM (view original):
My theory evolves around the fact that we want the person in charge to sound calm and controlled.   High pitch tends to sound excited and panicked.    Two people can say the same thing with the same passion but the deeper voice will say "I'm in charge" while the other says "HELP ME!!  THIS IS CRAZY STUFF!!!"

There's a school of thought in the oil industry that's led us to use more female voice talent in voicing commercials, PSAs and other stuff, particularly related to community relations and the enivornment. It's the whole idea of a woman's voice being more nurturing and soothing.

When we test commercials with female narration, they score high. When we screen commercials featuring females on screen, they don't test quite as strongly with focus groups. It's quite odd and the research suggests, at least for the oil industry, is women need to be heard rather than seen.
7/10/2011 6:17 PM
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Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/10/2011 5:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by rcrusso on 7/10/2011 5:52:00 PM (view original):
Lack of common sense makes them unelectable swamp.
Common Sense?

I think we can all agree that  harvard Law Professors are not known for their common sense. Advantage Palin!
Any politician with an iota of common sense would have read through that dumbassed Family Values pledge before signing off on the whole idea that slavery wasn't entirely bad for African Americans.
7/10/2011 6:20 PM
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Posted by willgibson on 7/10/2011 6:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 7/10/2011 11:26:00 AM (view original):
My theory evolves around the fact that we want the person in charge to sound calm and controlled.   High pitch tends to sound excited and panicked.    Two people can say the same thing with the same passion but the deeper voice will say "I'm in charge" while the other says "HELP ME!!  THIS IS CRAZY STUFF!!!"

There's a school of thought in the oil industry that's led us to use more female voice talent in voicing commercials, PSAs and other stuff, particularly related to community relations and the enivornment. It's the whole idea of a woman's voice being more nurturing and soothing.

When we test commercials with female narration, they score high. When we screen commercials featuring females on screen, they don't test quite as strongly with focus groups. It's quite odd and the research suggests, at least for the oil industry, is women need to be heard rather than seen.
There are fields, without question, where a woman's voice, or her presence, is preferred.   I don't think politics is one of those.   Again, I think it's the "in charge" voice.
7/10/2011 7:56 PM
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Posted by willgibson on 7/10/2011 6:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/10/2011 5:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by rcrusso on 7/10/2011 5:52:00 PM (view original):
Lack of common sense makes them unelectable swamp.
Common Sense?

I think we can all agree that  harvard Law Professors are not known for their common sense. Advantage Palin!
Any politician with an iota of common sense would have read through that dumbassed Family Values pledge before signing off on the whole idea that slavery wasn't entirely bad for African Americans.
1 That was just a line in a subsection that had nothing to do with the main point of the document. To play it up is wrong. They looked at it and decided that the line was over the line and was removed. It does not change the meaning of the document.

2 I am not sure who is right about the percenteag, but the alarming number of black unwed births is hurting black society. To try to make a wild comparison was wrong, but sometimes that happens.

This is 100% common sense. She read it, believed in it and signed it. Some goofy example has nothing to do with it. Law Professors are more worried about the fine print. Real people are worried about the main point.
7/10/2011 10:21 PM
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It was a kind of Hitler line. That even with something as horrible as slavery there were still less unwed births.

Someone could think that was a great analogy and under the light of day realize how offensive it is.
7/10/2011 11:02 PM
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Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/10/2011 10:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by willgibson on 7/10/2011 6:20:00 PM (view original):
Posted by swamphawk22 on 7/10/2011 5:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by rcrusso on 7/10/2011 5:52:00 PM (view original):
Lack of common sense makes them unelectable swamp.
Common Sense?

I think we can all agree that  harvard Law Professors are not known for their common sense. Advantage Palin!
Any politician with an iota of common sense would have read through that dumbassed Family Values pledge before signing off on the whole idea that slavery wasn't entirely bad for African Americans.
1 That was just a line in a subsection that had nothing to do with the main point of the document. To play it up is wrong. They looked at it and decided that the line was over the line and was removed. It does not change the meaning of the document.

2 I am not sure who is right about the percenteag, but the alarming number of black unwed births is hurting black society. To try to make a wild comparison was wrong, but sometimes that happens.

This is 100% common sense. She read it, believed in it and signed it. Some goofy example has nothing to do with it. Law Professors are more worried about the fine print. Real people are worried about the main point.
1. It is, at the very least, sloppy staff work that strongly suggests she's not ready to lead the free world. Again.

2. She better sweat the fine print if she's going to be negotiating documents as nuanced as trade deals or weapons treaties.
 
3. There is no percentage -- zero -- in a white Republican politician from the midwest to wade into a debate about the rate of unwed births in the African-American community. That's not just a loser. That's a suicide wish for somebody seeking to run for office. She needs to get up to speed quickly or Obama will eat her for breakfast. 
7/11/2011 12:17 AM
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We are having an epedemic of children born out of wedlock.

We dont need more social services, we need a return to good family values.

Their is no greater indicator that a child will have less of a chance at a good life than not having 2 parents.

7/11/2011 1:39 AM
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I don't know that I'd use "epidemic" to describe the problem. 
7/11/2011 9:32 AM
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Culture change.
7/11/2011 10:52 AM
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But, to answer your question in the most politically incorrect way possible, stop "rewarding" people for having children they can't afford. 
7/11/2011 10:53 AM
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BTW, I'd be soooooooo for forced sterilization.   The first time you ask for a handout because you can't feed your child, you get a free visit to the doctor to help you with birth control.   And, if you're willing to name the father, he can get some help too once the DNA test is complete.  That puts an end to a lot of problems.
7/11/2011 11:01 AM
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