Posted by jrd_x on 6/4/2012 12:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tecwrg on 6/4/2012 11:28:00 AM (view original):
Because they are not my personal traditions.  They are traditions that have been established by humanity as a whole over thousands of years of civilization.

And remind me again what the big problem is if the tradition changes to include an additional 3% of the population?

Why should long-standing historical and cultural traditions should be cast aside because a small special-interest group of people demand it?
 

Posted by jrd_x on 6/4/2012 1:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/4/2012 1:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/4/2012 1:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/4/2012 1:19:00 PM (view original):
1.  So you agree that this is a false statement?  "If a gay person remains single, they will still need health care."  

The increased cost comes with being added to a spouse's company insurance.

2.  I think it will.  You seemed to think that drug use and/or suicide would not.   Remember?  I called you a moron for your mentally deficient stance on legalizing both on the grounds that it doesn't affect anyone else.

1. Last I checked there is no "free coverage for spouses" from insurance companies.  They still charge premium.  It's up to the employer to decide how much of the cost they choose to pay for spousal coverage.

There is nothing false about the statement.  Everyone in their lifetime will need health care of some sort.  Everybody gets sick.

2.  I said suicide should be legal without commenting on its affect on others.  You made the argument that it affects others.  I agree it does affect others and is therefore not analogous to gay marriage.

1.  Try getting independent health coverage.  Compare the cost of being added to your spouse's company coverage and get back to me.

Maybe.  But the guy with no insurance will be responsible for his visits out of pocket.

2.   Then why were you for legalizing suicide?

1.  Yes, for two reasons.  You're getting a group rate and it is often subsidized by the employer.

2. Because I think terminally ill people should be able to end their life when they are in pain.

Posted by tecwrg on 6/4/2012 3:35:00 PM (view original):
One man, one woman.

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/4/2012 3:40:00 PM (view original):
Methinks somebody needs to look up "tradition".

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/4/2012 3:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/4/2012 1:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/4/2012 1:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jrd_x on 6/4/2012 1:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/4/2012 1:19:00 PM (view original):
1.  So you agree that this is a false statement?  "If a gay person remains single, they will still need health care."  

The increased cost comes with being added to a spouse's company insurance.

2.  I think it will.  You seemed to think that drug use and/or suicide would not.   Remember?  I called you a moron for your mentally deficient stance on legalizing both on the grounds that it doesn't affect anyone else.

1. Last I checked there is no "free coverage for spouses" from insurance companies.  They still charge premium.  It's up to the employer to decide how much of the cost they choose to pay for spousal coverage.

There is nothing false about the statement.  Everyone in their lifetime will need health care of some sort.  Everybody gets sick.

2.  I said suicide should be legal without commenting on its affect on others.  You made the argument that it affects others.  I agree it does affect others and is therefore not analogous to gay marriage.

1.  Try getting independent health coverage.  Compare the cost of being added to your spouse's company coverage and get back to me.

Maybe.  But the guy with no insurance will be responsible for his visits out of pocket.

2.   Then why were you for legalizing suicide?

1.  Yes, for two reasons.  You're getting a group rate and it is often subsidized by the employer.

2. Because I think terminally ill people should be able to end their life when they are in pain.

1.  So you agree that healthcare costs would go up because the gay spouse has coverage from his significant other's employer?

2.  If you successfully kill yourself, I don't think it matters if it's legal or not.    It's those who suck at suicide who need to be discouraged from trying it.

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