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Well, to be fair, I'm a "Do better with your life" kind of guy.    And, if inflation happens, it happens.   I just don't think government sponsored inflation is a good thing.   "Correcting" the economy hasn't been a forte' of this administration(or many others for that matter).   Purposely creating a hardship on a portion of our citizens doesn't sit well with me.

6/19/2012 9:38 AM
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Of course, the current administration would say "Hey, you qualify for food stamps now.  Go apply!!!" to solve the problem.
6/19/2012 9:39 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/19/2012 9:38:00 AM (view original):

Well, to be fair, I'm a "Do better with your life" kind of guy.    And, if inflation happens, it happens.   I just don't think government sponsored inflation is a good thing.   "Correcting" the economy hasn't been a forte' of this administration(or many others for that matter).   Purposely creating a hardship on a portion of our citizens doesn't sit well with me.

Shouldn't the government do what is in its power to improve the economy?

Did you argue against lower interest rates?  That creates a hardship for a portion of citizens - anyone who makes money lending money to others and anyone who is living off of a retirement account.
6/19/2012 11:23 AM
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Do you think creating purposely creating a hardship on the portion of citizens that can least afford it is a good policy?

Do you think people who loan money and/or live off a retirement account actually have money?   Don't you think financial changes are easier to bear if you actually have money?
6/19/2012 11:36 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/19/2012 11:36:00 AM (view original):
Do you think creating purposely creating a hardship on the portion of citizens that can least afford it is a good policy?

Do you think people who loan money and/or live off a retirement account actually have money?   Don't you think financial changes are easier to bear if you actually have money?
I think the government has a responsibility to do what it can to keep the economy growing.  There will always be people who are affected negatively by certain policies.

Even retirees on a fixed income are better off in a growing economy with a little inflation than a slumping economy with no inflation.
6/19/2012 11:46 AM
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Isn't "Tax the rich because they can afford it" the foundation of the left's economic policy?    Isn't hitting those who can't afford it with policy-induced inflation a complete 180?

Do you really believe making living more expensive to those on a fixed income is better for them?  

6/19/2012 12:10 PM
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You STILL have not defined ECONOMY.........Must mean you can't.
6/19/2012 12:27 PM
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By your extremely broad/borderline dishonest definition of "fixed income" (people who work jobs and don't see a raise on the immediate horizon), yes, a growing economy with a little inflation is better than a sluggish economy with no inflation.  Inflation doesn't include commodity prices like energy, and things like healthcare, real estate,  and childcare tend to go up in price much faster than inflation.  Even at an inflation rate of zero, someone with limited income in a slow economy is going to have a hard time surviving.  The best chance they have is a growing economy where they actually have a shot at making more money. 
6/19/2012 12:28 PM
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Are you really saying that a man who has $100 a week, and can just barely survive, is better off if the things that keep him alive are suddenly $105?

I mean, really, as in no ****?
6/19/2012 1:29 PM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 6/19/2012 9:29:00 AM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 6/18/2012 3:18:00 PM (view original):
No, I don't. It's 2%. It's essentially just lowering the return on their retirement accounts further. Not great for them, but the overall improvement in the economy is more important.
Don't you think this answer goes back to my assertion that you have a limited social circle that consists on people who have roughly the same wealth/disposable income?

Isn't it safe to assume that you've never lived paycheck to paycheck?

Therefore you don't understand that some folks go to beans/rice on Wed/Thur just to get to Friday?

Or that, maybe, they skip lunch a couple of days a week because they're not getting paid until Friday?
Why did you ignore this?

Is it because it's 100% accurate?
6/19/2012 1:30 PM
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A guy making $100 a week and barely surviving is probably ****** either way.

Even at zero inflation he probably won't be able to keep up with any sort of increase in real estate or energy prices.  

My argument is that he is better off if the economy is growing and providing an opportunity for him to make more money, even if that means he has to deal with a couple more percentage points of core inflation.

Do you disagree?  Is he better off if his income stagnates at $100 a week forever?
6/19/2012 1:34 PM
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So you think it's OK to make sure he's ****** instead of assuming he's probably going to get ******?

Did someone die and appoint you God of Poor People?

Why didn't I get that memo?

If you can make it on $100 week forever assuming the cost of necessities never exceeds $100 per week, do you not think that's better than starving to death while waiting on this promised improved economy?

And why are you continuing to ignore my comments on you and your circle of friends?  Is it because I'm 100% accurate?   Because you've never mingled with the unwashed masses?   Did you have the silver spoon removed from your *** or is it permanent?
6/19/2012 1:50 PM
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But the cost of necessities will go up no matter what, even at zero inflation, energy, real estate, and health care costs almost always go up.

He is better off in an improving economy even with a little inflation.

I'm ignoring your comments because you don't know me and have no idea what my circle of friends is like.  You're resorting to personal attacks because you're in over your head.
6/19/2012 1:56 PM
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So you're OK in making sure he's ****** instead of letting it happen on it's on?   Would you legalize suicide shops?   Assuming, of course, you know that everyone is going to die eventually?   Would you work in the suicide shop in order to help your fellow man?

Did I claim to know you at any point?  Isn't that the point of my questions, to get to your background in order to understand why you don't care about starving people?  Because, as I've point out, you now understand that's what you'd do, right?  You now know that everyone doesn't have a savings account, retirement plan or trust fund to draw against to pay for necessities?

6/19/2012 2:15 PM
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Quote post by jrd_x on 6/19/2012 1:56:00 PM:
But the cost of necessities will go up no matter what, even at zero inflation, energy, real estate, and health care costs almost always go up.

He is better off in an improving economy even with a little inflation.

I'm ignoring your comments because you don't know me and have no idea what my circle of friends is like.  You're resorting to personal attacks because you're in over your head.
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That's funny!  This, coming from the guy who can not answer a question without (A) Facts - only subjective rhetoric. (B) a question. (C) His own attack.

If jrd_x (were color blind) thought trees were yellow & had 35 people backing him up, 2880 people telling him trees are green would be wrong, because it's only about what HE sees....NOT truth based on fact.

MOKE


 
6/19/2012 2:20 PM
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