Obama: Worst President Ever? Topic

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6/19/2012 4:55 PM
Do you consider yourself an open-minded individual?

Do you know how funny it is to even consider that you might respond "yes"?
6/19/2012 4:57 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/19/2012 4:50:00 PM (view original):
Furthermore. do you think of yourself as an open-minded individual?

Do you realize if you answer "yes", that 98% of the people who read this thread may die laughing?
Well, let's see.

I argue in this thread and a couple others:
that pitcher wins are a ******* useless stat, despite the insistence of people to use the stat in Cy Young and HOF voting
that we should use the best/most accurate metrics available to measure baseball player performance
that homosexuals should be allowed to marry despite tradition
that drugs should be legalized
that economic policies should be adopted that conflict with conventional wisdom
that the stimulus was beneficial to the economy despite the deafening roar from the right
that evolution is a fact

Yeah, I'd say I'm fairly open minded.

6/19/2012 5:06 PM
Let's ask a simpler question: Do you understand what openmindedness is?
6/19/2012 5:16 PM
Would it be fair to say he does not?

Has anyone died laughing from his response?
6/19/2012 5:17 PM
Quote post by jrd_x on 6/19/2012 3:24:00 PM:
Posted by tecwrg on 6/19/2012 3:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 6/19/2012 2:45:00 PM (view original):
If inflation remains at zero and he still can't afford to eat because the price of grain went up due to global population growth, and he wouldn't be see while he cooked the food anyway, because energy prices went up due to increased global demand, and he couldn't afford to get to the store because gas prices went up due to that same demand, he's just as screwed. 

The difference is that if the economy grows even with 5% inflation, he has a chance to increase his income to keep up with rising costs.  If the economy doesn't grow and inflation stays at zero, he has no chance to keep up with the rising costs.  And the costs ARE going to rise, inflation or no inflation.
Rising costs are inflation, dumbass.

You can't say costs are rising and inflation is staying at zero.
Um no. Inflation is the reduction in the value of a dollar. Price increases/decreases due to supply and demand of a product are not inflation/deflation.

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Really? 
Yet another example of your stupidity jrd_x.  No way to spin it either.  It's right there in your own words.

So, when the price of fuel goes up, businesses (as a whole) now pay more to deliver their product/services/goods.  Those costs are passed onto the consumer in the form of price increases.  The consumer now pays more for the same items they purchase each month, OR they purchase less quantity for the same amount they spend each month.
As I told you before, there are several things that work together when it comes to inflation.  But the bottom line is, your dollar is not actually worth a dollar.

And lets not leave out one of your first "points", that you believed employers would give raises during these times.

Once and for all, explain your point using FACTS through HISTORY.  You think all this bu!!sh!t you
spew is true - PROVE IT.  Wait, YOU CAN'T!  You only know how to spew bu!!sh!t in the form of acting
passive.  Short, unprovable statements, followed by a question to divert an explanation from you. 

Mike,
You're never going to get a straight answer or a fact from this moron.  He can't understand the most basic descriptions.  NOR does he want to.
6/19/2012 5:24 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/19/2012 5:17:00 PM (view original):
Would it be fair to say he does not?

Has anyone died laughing from his response?
I think it's hilarious that you are arguing that I'm not open-minded while refusing to consider any argument or evidence that conflicts with your gut instinct.  

I'm open to ideas.  That I find the arguments presented by economic experts more compelling than your's doesn't make me closed minded. 
6/19/2012 5:34 PM
Posted by OSU_Buckeye on 6/19/2012 5:24:00 PM (view original):
Quote post by jrd_x on 6/19/2012 3:24:00 PM:
Posted by tecwrg on 6/19/2012 3:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jrd_x on 6/19/2012 2:45:00 PM (view original):
If inflation remains at zero and he still can't afford to eat because the price of grain went up due to global population growth, and he wouldn't be see while he cooked the food anyway, because energy prices went up due to increased global demand, and he couldn't afford to get to the store because gas prices went up due to that same demand, he's just as screwed. 

The difference is that if the economy grows even with 5% inflation, he has a chance to increase his income to keep up with rising costs.  If the economy doesn't grow and inflation stays at zero, he has no chance to keep up with the rising costs.  And the costs ARE going to rise, inflation or no inflation.
Rising costs are inflation, dumbass.

You can't say costs are rising and inflation is staying at zero.
Um no. Inflation is the reduction in the value of a dollar. Price increases/decreases due to supply and demand of a product are not inflation/deflation.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Really? 
Yet another example of your stupidity jrd_x.  No way to spin it either.  It's right there in your own words.

So, when the price of fuel goes up, businesses (as a whole) now pay more to deliver their product/services/goods.  Those costs are passed onto the consumer in the form of price increases.  The consumer now pays more for the same items they purchase each month, OR they purchase less quantity for the same amount they spend each month.
As I told you before, there are several things that work together when it comes to inflation.  But the bottom line is, your dollar is not actually worth a dollar.

And lets not leave out one of your first "points", that you believed employers would give raises during these times.

Once and for all, explain your point using FACTS through HISTORY.  You think all this bu!!sh!t you
spew is true - PROVE IT.  Wait, YOU CAN'T!  You only know how to spew bu!!sh!t in the form of acting
passive.  Short, unprovable statements, followed by a question to divert an explanation from you. 

Mike,
You're never going to get a straight answer or a fact from this moron.  He can't understand the most basic descriptions.  NOR does he want to.
Hmmm, I'm fairly certain you don't know what you are talking about.

The price of gas going up because there are more people wanting gas or because there is less gas available is not inflation.  Gas prices went down last week.  Is your dollar worth more now because of it?  Was that deflation?
6/19/2012 5:38 PM
Quote post by jrd_x on 6/19/2012 5:34:00 PM:
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/19/2012 5:17:00 PM (view original):
Would it be fair to say he does not?

Has anyone died laughing from his response?
I think it's hilarious that you are arguing that I'm not open-minded while refusing to consider any argument or evidence that conflicts with your gut instinct.  

I'm open to ideas.  That I find the arguments presented by economic experts more compelling than your's doesn't make me closed minded. 

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Mike's is "gut instinct"?
Yours is "economic experts"?  Really?

You really are a dumbass.  You have no concept of BASIC understanding, much less an understanding of the multiple relationships that are inner twined to give us current results. 
How convenient for you to leave out... "As I told you before, there are several things that work together when it comes to inflation.  But the bottom line is, your dollar is not actually worth a dollar", as I mentioned above.
You think these things can be singled out, and they can't.

Why don't you go back and read from page 1.
Ask yourself, how many people have come to your defense in this?  How many people are seeing things as you see them?
How many people have come in here and corrected you or called you a dumbass?

There is a reason you stand alone.  When will you realize?....or will you just be Epic Dumbass?


 
6/19/2012 5:57 PM
Gas prices went down last week.  Are dollars now more valuable?
6/19/2012 6:02 PM
Posted by OSU_Buckeye on 6/19/2012 5:57:00 PM (view original):
Quote post by jrd_x on 6/19/2012 5:34:00 PM:
Posted by MikeT23 on 6/19/2012 5:17:00 PM (view original):
Would it be fair to say he does not?

Has anyone died laughing from his response?
I think it's hilarious that you are arguing that I'm not open-minded while refusing to consider any argument or evidence that conflicts with your gut instinct.  

I'm open to ideas.  That I find the arguments presented by economic experts more compelling than your's doesn't make me closed minded. 

-------------------------
Mike's is "gut instinct"?
Yours is "economic experts"?  Really?

You really are a dumbass.  You have no concept of BASIC understanding, much less an understanding of the multiple relationships that are inner twined to give us current results. 
How convenient for you to leave out... "As I told you before, there are several things that work together when it comes to inflation.  But the bottom line is, your dollar is not actually worth a dollar", as I mentioned above.
You think these things can be singled out, and they can't.

Why don't you go back and read from page 1.
Ask yourself, how many people have come to your defense in this?  How many people are seeing things as you see them?
How many people have come in here and corrected you or called you a dumbass?

There is a reason you stand alone.  When will you realize?....or will you just be Epic Dumbass?


 
Stop back peddling, dumbass.
6/19/2012 6:05 PM
You're arguing that gas prices going up is inflation.  If it is, gas prices going down is deflation.  Do you agree?
6/19/2012 6:08 PM
Not taking the bait of your spin.  READ A BOOK.
6/19/2012 6:19 PM
I'm not spinning anything.  The rise and fall of commodity prices is not inflation.  It's due to supply and demand.  That's why food and energy aren't included in the core inflation measures.
6/19/2012 6:29 PM
Posted by jrd_x on 6/19/2012 4:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by crackatoeha on 6/19/2012 3:28:00 PM (view original):
STILL HAVE NOT DEFINED ECONOMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I will bet you anything that when you figure out what economy means you will change your point of view and sincecely apologize to everyone here....
?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+economy
What happened to "I don't click links".....  And I don't need your link to tell me what economy is, I know what it is....and if YOU did you would change your argument.
6/19/2012 7:05 PM
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