I was under the impression, that if you got an injury to an ML player and called up a minor leaguer to fill in for him, then demoted him once the other player came off the DL, that you would not get a ratings hit?  I even made the demotion and DL removal moves concurrently to ensure, yet I still took some ratings hit....any ideas why this would happen?  Or was I wrong in the assumption?  Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Norm Smith

You also have to make the DL Add simultaneously with the promotion.

If you did so, then I don't know what happened. Never seen it happen before.

Both moves have to involve the same two players at the same time, in both directions. If Smith had been called up at the same time de la Rosa was placed on the DL, you'd have been safe to demote Smith when you activated de la Rosa.

12/10/2013 9:33 PM

ewood24

Bluehawks

Vic De La Rosa

LF

25

Placed on DL

12/11/2013 9:17 AM

ewood24

Bluehawks

Norm Smith

3B

21

Promoted

Yeah, that won't work.

Posted by joshkvt on 12/17/2013 12:49:00 AM (view original):
Both moves have to involve the same two players at the same time, in both directions. If Smith had been called up at the same time de la Rosa was placed on the DL, you'd have been safe to demote Smith when you activated de la Rosa.

I'm not sure if that's entirely true, because I've been able to do the following with no penalty:

Day 1: player A gets a 30 day injury, placed on the 15-day DL, player X called up to replace him.
Day 15: player B gets a 30 day injury, placed on the 15-day DL, player Y called up to replace him
Day 31: player A recovered, removed from the DL, player Y demoted
Day 46: player B recovered, removed from the DL, player X demoted

As long as the player was called up at the same time as a DL placement, and is demoted at the same time as a DL removal, I think you're good.  It doesn't have to match player for player.  Otherwise, on day 31 I would have had to demote player X instead of player Y or face a demotion penalty.

that is crazy, a guy gets hurt, I promote someone within one cycle, not even a full day, and then when I remove him from the DL and demote the player at the exact same time, and that isnt good?  That seems very weird.

but thanks for the info.

Posted by ewood24 on 12/17/2013 12:19:00 PM (view original):
that is crazy, a guy gets hurt, I promote someone within one cycle, not even a full day, and then when I remove him from the DL and demote the player at the exact same time, and that isnt good?  That seems very weird.

It seems the computer sim will take away the possibility of a demotion penalty only if you do the DL add and original promotion at the same time.  Makes sense.

I am almost certain I did what tecwrg described above once and either X or Y got a demotion penalty.  I think the DL player and promoted/demoted player have to stay the same pair.

Also, if X or Y are out of options and need to be designated to get them off the ML roster right away and then back in the MinL, they can get a demotion penalty. That happened to me and I have a WIS support ticket that backs up it's part of the coding.

I don't know what happens if you waive X or Y a few days in advance and then demote them. I don't think I've ever remembered to do that before the player comes off the DL.

Maybe I did get lucky, but I believe I've done it more than once with no penalty.

Seems like a bit of a flaw if a penalty is expected.  Assuming player X is better than player Y (since you called him up first), you'd be forced to keep the lesser player in order to avoid the penalty.