Posted by mbriese on 7/18/2015 10:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 8:37:00 AM (view original):

Nope.   Looks like more people think it was a dirty trick than a brilliant move.

However, an owner caught trying to sneak an alias into Moonlight Graham voted "dirty" so there's that.    Another owner, who I blasted for a couple of real life years for trade raping n00bs in Hamilton, also voted "dirty".    Therefore, I'm not sure the "dirty" side has much validation.

If that makes you feel better, more power to you.

It sounds like the only affect this trade is really having on your world is that you're losing an owner who, A. You don't mind losing anyways and B. Might have been gone due to MWR anyways. I'm not sure what else you're looking for in this thread. If someone were to say, "No, lying isn't wrong, it's awesome and you're the bestest smartest HBD player out there" would that help? If someone in my world said they accidentally waived people I would look into trading for their waived players to avoid somebody getting something for nothing by claiming them. You wanted to lie to convince nicer owners to do you a favor so that you could get a strategic advantage - had I have been the nicer owner trying to do you a favor I would've been hacked off about the lie, moreso after you bragged about it. If I were in a world with you I would avoid trading with you in the future, but I'm not. If the lie would have made someone trade you something they wouldn't have otherwise then it would matter more, but it didn't. So who cares?

"So who cares?" asks the guy who wrote a short novel in response.

As I already said, I "bragged" about it because I got a half dozen "You dumbass, I'm claiming your players" responses.
 

Posted by willsauve on 7/18/2015 11:14:00 AM (view original):
I also don't like the idea of a team getting that pitcher for nothing so it worked out for the best in my eyes.. If the pitcher had been picked up on the WW it's the equivalent of a shady trade which isn't good for any world..

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 11:19:00 AM (view original):

Posted by mbriese on 7/18/2015 10:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 8:37:00 AM (view original):

Nope.   Looks like more people think it was a dirty trick than a brilliant move.

However, an owner caught trying to sneak an alias into Moonlight Graham voted "dirty" so there's that.    Another owner, who I blasted for a couple of real life years for trade raping n00bs in Hamilton, also voted "dirty".    Therefore, I'm not sure the "dirty" side has much validation.

If that makes you feel better, more power to you.

It sounds like the only affect this trade is really having on your world is that you're losing an owner who, A. You don't mind losing anyways and B. Might have been gone due to MWR anyways. I'm not sure what else you're looking for in this thread. If someone were to say, "No, lying isn't wrong, it's awesome and you're the bestest smartest HBD player out there" would that help? If someone in my world said they accidentally waived people I would look into trading for their waived players to avoid somebody getting something for nothing by claiming them. You wanted to lie to convince nicer owners to do you a favor so that you could get a strategic advantage - had I have been the nicer owner trying to do you a favor I would've been hacked off about the lie, moreso after you bragged about it. If I were in a world with you I would avoid trading with you in the future, but I'm not. If the lie would have made someone trade you something they wouldn't have otherwise then it would matter more, but it didn't. So who cares?

"So who cares?" asks the guy who wrote a short novel in response.

As I already said, I "bragged" about it because I got a half dozen "You dumbass, I'm claiming your players" responses.
 

I'll add that 80 people voted.   So, in HBD terms, they care.   You were one of them.

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 7:05:00 AM (view original):
Persona I portray?   Pretty sure I'm the same in the forums, world chat and real world.   Some people like me, think I'm funny and some people don't. 

As for the outcome, yeah, I think it's the same but I don't think it happens as quickly.  For the most part, I wanted people to know those two were on the WW and that I wanted to move them quickly.   Had I simply put them on the trade block and said "Availbable", I don't think it happens by 3 PM.  

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 11:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 11:19:00 AM (view original):

Posted by mbriese on 7/18/2015 10:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 8:37:00 AM (view original):

Nope.   Looks like more people think it was a dirty trick than a brilliant move.

However, an owner caught trying to sneak an alias into Moonlight Graham voted "dirty" so there's that.    Another owner, who I blasted for a couple of real life years for trade raping n00bs in Hamilton, also voted "dirty".    Therefore, I'm not sure the "dirty" side has much validation.

If that makes you feel better, more power to you.

It sounds like the only affect this trade is really having on your world is that you're losing an owner who, A. You don't mind losing anyways and B. Might have been gone due to MWR anyways. I'm not sure what else you're looking for in this thread. If someone were to say, "No, lying isn't wrong, it's awesome and you're the bestest smartest HBD player out there" would that help? If someone in my world said they accidentally waived people I would look into trading for their waived players to avoid somebody getting something for nothing by claiming them. You wanted to lie to convince nicer owners to do you a favor so that you could get a strategic advantage - had I have been the nicer owner trying to do you a favor I would've been hacked off about the lie, moreso after you bragged about it. If I were in a world with you I would avoid trading with you in the future, but I'm not. If the lie would have made someone trade you something they wouldn't have otherwise then it would matter more, but it didn't. So who cares?

"So who cares?" asks the guy who wrote a short novel in response.

As I already said, I "bragged" about it because I got a half dozen "You dumbass, I'm claiming your players" responses.
 

I'll add that 80 people voted.   So, in HBD terms, they care.   You were one of them.

Posted by plague on 7/18/2015 1:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 7:05:00 AM (view original):
Persona I portray?   Pretty sure I'm the same in the forums, world chat and real world.   Some people like me, think I'm funny and some people don't. 

As for the outcome, yeah, I think it's the same but I don't think it happens as quickly.  For the most part, I wanted people to know those two were on the WW and that I wanted to move them quickly.   Had I simply put them on the trade block and said "Availbable", I don't think it happens by 3 PM.  

I wasn't trying to be offensive.

You come across as someone who is righteous and would sacrifice winning to that goal. This tactic doesn't fit that persona. That's all I was trying to say.

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 1:25:00 PM (view original):
You don't have to write a book to explain how you don't care.  Yet you did.

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 1:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by plague on 7/18/2015 1:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 7:05:00 AM (view original):
Persona I portray?   Pretty sure I'm the same in the forums, world chat and real world.   Some people like me, think I'm funny and some people don't. 

As for the outcome, yeah, I think it's the same but I don't think it happens as quickly.  For the most part, I wanted people to know those two were on the WW and that I wanted to move them quickly.   Had I simply put them on the trade block and said "Availbable", I don't think it happens by 3 PM.  

I wasn't trying to be offensive.

You come across as someone who is righteous and would sacrifice winning to that goal. This tactic doesn't fit that persona. That's all I was trying to say.

Most of our disagreements center around the "integrity of the league".    I think you compromise it by taking advantage of n00bs in trade.   Coop has no n00bs.  In this case, I simply felt I accelerated the trade process.    I gambled, and pretended to do something I didn't mean to, by putting the players on the WW.   No one had to offer. 

Posted by mbriese on 7/18/2015 2:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 1:25:00 PM (view original):
You don't have to write a book to explain how you don't care.  Yet you did.

If the length of my post is the only thing you can pick apart then have at it. Well done. With almost 40K posts, you've got this whole "being a moron on the forums" thing down pat.

Posted by plague on 7/18/2015 2:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 1:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by plague on 7/18/2015 1:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 7:05:00 AM (view original):
Persona I portray?   Pretty sure I'm the same in the forums, world chat and real world.   Some people like me, think I'm funny and some people don't. 

As for the outcome, yeah, I think it's the same but I don't think it happens as quickly.  For the most part, I wanted people to know those two were on the WW and that I wanted to move them quickly.   Had I simply put them on the trade block and said "Availbable", I don't think it happens by 3 PM.  

I wasn't trying to be offensive.

You come across as someone who is righteous and would sacrifice winning to that goal. This tactic doesn't fit that persona. That's all I was trying to say.

Most of our disagreements center around the "integrity of the league".    I think you compromise it by taking advantage of n00bs in trade.   Coop has no n00bs.  In this case, I simply felt I accelerated the trade process.    I gambled, and pretended to do something I didn't mean to, by putting the players on the WW.   No one had to offer. 

Our disagreements come from you making assumptions. You assume that my beliefs in how a game should be played are the same as the actions I take in game. If I wanted to take advantage of noobs I wouldn't play in a world where there is no noobs. My belief is everyone is responsible for their own actions. I am a independent and I believe people shouldn't be able to whine or cry and blame others for their own actions.

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 5:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by mbriese on 7/18/2015 2:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 7/18/2015 1:25:00 PM (view original):
You don't have to write a book to explain how you don't care.  Yet you did.

If the length of my post is the only thing you can pick apart then have at it. Well done. With almost 40K posts, you've got this whole "being a moron on the forums" thing down pat.

For someone who doesn't care, you can't seem to go away.