Anyone had worse luck than this, or similar?

 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Elian Figaro Singed a nice $22 million dollar bonus...3.2 innings later...he revealed that he had been experiencing some shoulder pain.

That's the best luck ever if you have medical set at $20.... Which you should. Sure you punt the first year but with all of those injury recovery cycles he should be able to throw the baseball hard enough to break diamonds for season 2.

16 gf/fb, he's a HR machine anyways  ;)

Have training and med at 20 20 so I'm hoping that will help him get back up there! Though it did just let me down big time.....

Posted by a_ersberg on 7/22/2015 9:13:00 PM (view original):
16 gf/fb, he's a HR machine anyways  ;)

gb/fb defines ground ball outs rather than ground ball events. I think of gb/fb like a double-play rating. low gb/fb pitchers technically face more batters because they have to get the outs one at a time, and will theoretically give up a higher volume of HR, but it's not because of gb/fb itself ...

there are plenty of examples of 95+ gb/fb who have league average HR rates and other examples of 16 gb/fb who have above-average HR rates. Hr rate relates more to command (pitches + control) and splits, and year-over-year variance relates to the fluctuations in the quality of batters the pitcher faces. 

I agree with the above...I've never seen a real correlation between GB/FB and homerun rates

I disagee.   Almost always, if you see a good WHIP that exceeds the ERA, it's because the pitcher gives up lots of homers.   And he'll have a low GB rating.

Posted by pjfoster13 on 7/23/2015 1:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by a_ersberg on 7/22/2015 9:13:00 PM (view original):
16 gf/fb, he's a HR machine anyways  ;)

gb/fb defines ground ball outs rather than ground ball events. I think of gb/fb like a double-play rating. low gb/fb pitchers technically face more batters because they have to get the outs one at a time, and will theoretically give up a higher volume of HR, but it's not because of gb/fb itself ...

there are plenty of examples of 95+ gb/fb who have league average HR rates and other examples of 16 gb/fb who have above-average HR rates. Hr rate relates more to command (pitches + control) and splits, and year-over-year variance relates to the fluctuations in the quality of batters the pitcher faces. 

What are you basing that on other than some examples of pitchers who don't fit the theory? Numbers back up that HR are directly affected by GB/FB. Looking at the three worlds I'm in, the most HR-prone pitchers consistently have lower GB/FB than less HR-prone pitchers. I only looked at the 25 P who allowed the most HR in each world since that was a quick way to get a snapshot:
Pete Rose
1-10 most HR allowed: 60.7 avg GB/FB rating
16-25: 73.1
20% higher average GBFB rating for 16-25 than 1-10 in most HR allowed
Rickey
1-10: 50.4
16-25: 66.1
31% difference 
Sweet Lou
1-10: 54.4
16-25: 70.3
29% difference

That's a huge difference in HR allowed for low-GB vs. high-GB. To look at it another way and eliminate defense and park factor, I looked at my staff in Rickey. Of 13 pitchers on my ML staff, the three best GB/FB ratios were 2-4-9 in HR allowed. The three worst GB/FB were 10-13-12. I only have two P with low (below 50) GB/FB; they are the worst on my team at giving up HR/inning by a huge margin over the other 11.

Of course other ratings matter, but GB/FB drives HR allowed the way Eye drives OBP for hitters. You can find examples of almost anything in baseball. Ozzie Smith hitting a walkoff HR in a WS game does not mean Ozzie Smith is a HR hitter. Benjie Molina getting a bounce for a cycle-finishing triple does not make Molina a good bet for triples. A 16 GB/FB with phenomenal splits/control/velocity might give up fewer HR than average, and a 95 GB/FB who otherwise stinks and gets hit all over the park might give up higher-than-average HR because he allows so many balls in play. But all else being equal, a 16 GB/FB is going to give up a whole lot more HR than a 95 GB/FB; or even a 40 GB/FB.

pjf throws out BS all the time.    He should be ignored.

"Of course other ratings matter, but GB/FB drives HR allowed the way Eye drives OBP for hitters. You can find examples of almost anything in baseball. Ozzie Smith hitting a walkoff HR in a WS game does not mean Ozzie Smith is a HR hitter. Benjie Molina getting a bounce for a cycle-finishing triple does not make Molina a good bet for triples. A 16 GB/FB with phenomenal splits/control/velocity might give up fewer HR than average, and a 95 GB/FB who otherwise stinks and gets hit all over the park might give up higher-than-average HR because he allows so many balls in play. But all else being equal, a 16 GB/FB is going to give up a whole lot more HR than a 95 GB/FB; or even a 40 GB/FB."

josh with all due respect, the only way we could truly define gb/fb as the sole reason for home-run rate would be if we had an entire sample size of players that had identical ratings in control, splits, and pitches, and then we altered their gb/fb only and then did analysis on the results

mike with no due respect because you're a tard, I used to think gb/fb related to home run rate too, until i started trade-chatting with user pimpbotlove (http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/UserProfile.aspx?uid=714630). He works for MLB and we talked about the kind of analysis he does on this game and trust me knows a lot more than me and definitely a lot more than you. After those chats I started taking much closer looks at the advanced stats in the boxscores and I realized he was right. 

The user guide mis-defines the attribute: The Groundball/Flyball rating determines a pitcher's ability to induce a groundball versus a flyball. A rating of 0 would be a pure flyball pitcher.

In truth, gb/fb determines a pitcher's ability to induce a groundball OUT versus a flyball OUT. A rating of 0 would be a pure flyball OUT pitcher. It omits the key word OUT. a gb/fb rate of 2.5 just means that a pitcher gets 2.5 groundouts for every 1 flyout, it has nothing to do with how many groundouts he gets per plate appearance. It has nothing to do with slugging percentage. Those rates are defined by many other variables

None of the attributes on this site are calibrated per plate appearance, it's the inherent flaw of the entire site. VEL does not define strikeout EVENTS aka strikeouts per batters faced, it defines strikeout PERCENTAGE aka K/9 aka strikeouts per OUT. gb/fb does not define groundball/flyball EVENTS it defines groundball/flyball OUTS.  Enormous difference.  In real life, groundball machines like Brandon Webb produce groundballs per plate appearance.  In HBD land, your sinkerball guy produces groundballs if and only if it's an out. The game decides 0 or 1 and then assigns the 0 outcomes to one fielder or another around the diamond algorithmically

take a closer look and realize GB/FB is nothing more than a cute little bonus that simply gets you more double plays if you have sexy infielders.  By far the least important attribute

Look, dumbass, you're wrong.  I'm very familiar with pimpbotlove.   MLB is not HBD and HBD is not MLB.   Find someone who can use small enough words to explain that to you.   Stop giving advice.   You have no idea what you're talking about.   We've been thru this before but you just keep slinging **** against the wall.  It doesn't stick.   Because, quite frankly, you're a dumbass.    Thanks for playing.

With that said, it's not a rating that should scare anyone off.   Good pitchers are good pitchers and they're always better than bad pitchers.   Just know a guy with a 16 GB will give up more homers than a 92 GB if they're comparable pitchers.    As I said, you might see a 1.23 WHIP and 4.28 ERA and think "That doesnt' look right."   If you do, look at HRA.  

No, you're a dumbass.   You've proven it time and time again.

Just don't give advice and all is good.   You just don't know what you're talking about.