I'm up 5-4 (after surrendering 4 runs in the bottom of the 9th) with two outs in the inning and I have my two Setup A pitchers available. Simmy brings in my mopup guy who promptly gives up back to back hits to lose the game.

Both setup A guys were at 100 percent and set to be available before the 9th.

Beyond that, in the process of giving up the 4 in B9, simmy tossed out two of my Setup B guys - never thought to try and stop the bleeding to secure a win?

And with a 1 game wild card lead I appreciated simmy's thoughtfulness 

Were SuA's both righties, MOP was a Leftie and the hitter coming up was a Leftie?

Wonder if bench coach rating affects this ?

Posted by hockey1984 on 1/19/2016 11:35:00 AM (view original):
Were SuA's both righties, MOP was a Leftie and the hitter coming up was a Leftie?

You may be on to something. It was a switch hitter then lefty and my mop up is lefty as well while the setup A guys are righties.

That still seems like foolish logic. No one in real life is going to bypass a setup man for a mopup guy just because of the hand he throws with.

Except Buck Showalter.

With all that's been mentioned, I'm not sure SIMMY always pays attention to our designated ROLES.    I know I've had more than a few SUA enter in the 6th when I'd rather they use a LR.   However, I have LR set at ANY for entry and SUA at 6(or 8).   So, when the 6th rolls around, I recognize my SUA may be used if SIMMY deems him the best "match".    And this sometimes burns thru all available SUA before the LR pitches the 9th.    I know it's my settings, and I could change them every game based on availability, but, in most cases, I'd rather use 4 SUA in 6-7-8-9 than 1 LR for 6-7.   But, when I only have two SUA available due to fatigue, I might get the LR pitching that last inning or two. 

Here's how I see it:  

frymaster was up by 4 entering the 9th.  As I've seen it happen, over three runs (not a save situation) means Simmy uses SuB (IF you have SuBs designated.)

I know that if it turns into a save situation, Simmy will bring in the Closer (again, IF designated.)  Did frymaster have a ClA ready?

What I don't know is that if it becomes a save situation, does Simmy make that mid-inning call in favor of an SuA?

Posted by frymaster99 on 1/19/2016 2:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hockey1984 on 1/19/2016 11:35:00 AM (view original):
Were SuA's both righties, MOP was a Leftie and the hitter coming up was a Leftie?

You may be on to something. It was a switch hitter then lefty and my mop up is lefty as well while the setup A guys are righties.

I'm betting this is it. Sometimes simmy thinks it's smarter then it actually is.

I don't use closers, but why wouldn't simmy observe that a setup A is a better choice than mop up?

Match-up.    LH v LH might have been "better" according to SIMMY regardless of what you think.   Truth is, when I see something like that, I re-think what I'm doing.   It could be the programmers jacked up SIMMY when constructed or it could be a hint to how the game plays.

FWIW, my batting formula was/is pretty accurate in telling me the order my players will end up in RC27 at season's end.   However, I always had a player or two out of whack.   Had me stumped.   Then I realized, more often than not, he was a switch-hitter.    RvR and LvL probably makes a bigger difference than we think.

That's a fair point. It's not totally outrageous then to consider not having a lefty in the pen under any circumstances if his ratings would dictate him being used before a superior righty.

You could also use the option under management settings so that mopup is never used when winning.