Posted by movet22 on 6/23/2010 8:28:00 PM (view original):
Look, if they fix it, then great! another mid season radical update that most will complain about while others nod in silence. But don't forget what you are asking for, because this will most certainly be like the power outage that happened a few months back where the numbers for ONE stat are fixed overnight, mid season. And if they don't fix it? oh well, I think the game runs just fine, and if you have THAT big of a problem with it, then find something else to do.

Posted by pstrnutbag44 on 6/23/2010 8:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/23/2010 6:51:00 PM (view original):
Yes, someone, somewhere figured out how to make it work.  WifS has not.   Is it a server problem?  If they say so, it may be.  Unless, of course, you've got some specs on WifS' servers that you'd like to share to prove it isn't.

If your only fallback in this "discussion" is grasping for straws like that (really? Server specs?), then it's clear you haven't got much to stand on. I think this may be one of the issues you are just wrong on. It's ok to accept that. Nobody will think any lees of you. The SB engine is NOT fine, and it seems obvious to most users.

Posted by prezuiwf on 6/23/2010 9:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by movet22 on 6/23/2010 8:28:00 PM (view original):
Look, if they fix it, then great! another mid season radical update that most will complain about while others nod in silence. But don't forget what you are asking for, because this will most certainly be like the power outage that happened a few months back where the numbers for ONE stat are fixed overnight, mid season. And if they don't fix it? oh well, I think the game runs just fine, and if you have THAT big of a problem with it, then find something else to do.

The power problems weren't nearly as bad as the SB problems are. If team stats were normal but you had some guys hitting 120 homers a season and most others hitting 5 or fewer in order to achieve that team number, that would have been one thing. As it was, homer totals were too high up but I don't think anyone was achieving numbers that were just ludicrous-- I know there were occasionally guys in the 70's and maybe 80 or so but frankly (especially during the roid era) it wouldn't have been out of the question to see a once-in-a-lifetime type of player achieve that.

Posted by sculley on 6/23/2010 7:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/23/2010 7:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/23/2010 10:20:00 AM (view original):
If you set it on average or aggressive, you'll get the results you want  with the exception of the occassional turtle getting caught.

My Coop team isn't particularly adept as stealing bases with one exception.   On "average" for 157 games, he's 35/3.  Next in line is 29/9.   Third on the attempts list is 1/2.   We're 68/20 on the year.   Obviously, only 2 players have gotten caught more than twice.

Here you go.   Nobody is stealing besides the players who should.

I mean the fact that it's working for your team doesn't mean anything at all, if there's other teams it's not working well for.

There are some great things in HBD that are more strategy-based compared to SIMBASEBALL.It also seems to me that SIMB has superior in-game coaching features like individual player settings for SB, PH, and bunting. HBD has "team" settings for these so it has to choose between having a superior bunter who's also hitting .300 sacrifice or not.We also haven't been able to PH in HBD. Why can't some of the individual settings used in SIMB be used in HBD? (Rails - Hall of Famer - 11:45 AM)

We introduced pinch-hitting for position players a couple weeks ago, so you should have started seeing more of this in HBD. We wanted to remove the need for additional, player-specific settings such as PH/PR/SB and instead write intelligent enough logic to incorporate the managerial settings. It makes sense, in my mind, that a manager with an aggressive stolen base philosphy knows to run Dave Roberts as much as he can, but still not run Mike Piazza. That said, we still get occasional feedback regarding this. We want to stick with our current design, but we want to improve the logic so the need for individual settings is truly not needed. We ask that when you have a boxscore and see a guy you think should never be attempting to steal get thrown out, please submit the boxscore for review. That way, we can continue to tweak this logic.

are there any discussions toward further micromanaging games? for example, giving a player a "green light" to steal rather than depending on a general "agressive" coaching option. (davedesmond - Pro - 3:28 PM)

Since there are over 1 million player's currently in HBD we can't allow for individual settings on players. When you do set an option like "Aggressive" for base stealing it does take into account the individual ratings of the player involved when the game event is triggered. If the ratings of the player do not favor the situation he will not try to steal a base.

is there anything planned in the future that will allow you to choose which players have the green light on stealing and which do not as opposed to a team setting? (a3morey - All-Star - 1:38 PM)

Since there are so many players in HBD we can't include individual player settings.

 

Is there a chance that we'll be able to set individual players stolen base tendencies rather than just the teams? (zinpa - Hall of Famer - 2:14 PM)

Given the current limitations of technology there is no way we can implement such a feature. We did the math and if we did allow this it would be well over a billion records. Please, if you see anywhere where this isn't inline with what you would expect, feel free to send a support ticket for us to review. We are always looking for ways to improve the engine.

 

Will there be any update to the base running logic? I would like to have the ability to set each player individually. (milwaukee_al - All-Star - 1:41 PM)

Improving basestealing logic is in the plans. There's a large chunk of guys running a little more than they should be. Adding individual settings will not happen, however.

 

Any future plans to be able to have baserunning and basestealing aggressivness be set to the individual players rather than the team as a whole. (Primetime17 - Hall of Famer - 12:27 PM)

No. This topic has been touched upon quite a bit. When it comes down to it, owners/managers should want their higher rated players running more than their lower rated players. The manager setting for each should work in conjunction with that basic fact. There shouldn't be a need for individual settings if it's working properly. And we've already touched on the fact we plan on addressing some SBA rates very soon. We are always working to provide as much control as possible without overload. This fits into the category we think can be done without additional categories per player.

 

Will there ever be individual base running aggressiveness settings? Seems silly that my "manager" would tell my well below average speed players to try and steal 25 times in a season just because I want my 99/99 guy to steal as much as possible. -Thedream42 (thedream42 - Pro - 2:48 PM)

No, due to data constraints and size limitations this will never happen in HBD. We will be looking at some very specific SB data so what you are describing should drastically be reduced.

 

Can we please have a way to individually set player base stealing and baserunning agressiveness? There are some players you want to be very agressive and others that shouldn't leave the base without a bus pass. (kschoenberg - Veteran - 3:09 PM)

This is never going to happen, there are way too many players to have individual settings for each of them.

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/23/2010 7:01:00 PM (view original):
You built your team with full knowledge of how the system works, right?

So now it should be changed because it's not set up the way you'd like for your specific team?

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/23/2010 9:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by sculley on 6/23/2010 7:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/23/2010 7:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/23/2010 10:20:00 AM (view original):
If you set it on average or aggressive, you'll get the results you want  with the exception of the occassional turtle getting caught.

My Coop team isn't particularly adept as stealing bases with one exception.   On "average" for 157 games, he's 35/3.  Next in line is 29/9.   Third on the attempts list is 1/2.   We're 68/20 on the year.   Obviously, only 2 players have gotten caught more than twice.

Here you go.   Nobody is stealing besides the players who should.

I mean the fact that it's working for your team doesn't mean anything at all, if there's other teams it's not working well for.

Everyone plays with the same game engine as me.   Build your team based on that engine not on what you wish would magically happen.  Seems rather simple.

Sure sounds like they are.

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/24/2010 6:42:00 AM (view original):

Sure sounds like they are.

Posted by pstrnutbag44 on 6/24/2010 9:31:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 6/24/2010 6:42:00 AM (view original):

Sure sounds like they are.

Again, possible comprehension problem. I don't think anyone said that here. Could be wrong though....