Posted by MikeT23 on 8/4/2010 8:35:00 AM (view original):
The fact that you think n00braping is fine would indicate that your prefer the Wild West worlds where anything goes.   Can't say I'm surprised that you avoid worlds with rules.

Posted by plague on 8/4/2010 6:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 8/4/2010 8:35:00 AM (view original):
The fact that you think n00braping is fine would indicate that your prefer the Wild West worlds where anything goes.   Can't say I'm surprised that you avoid worlds with rules.

I generally have Libertarian beliefs. I think most of the rules these worlds come up with are bad rules. I can appreciate 32 like minds forming together to play in a world rather than try and push their beliefs on others. I prefer 10 people deciding if a trade is unfair instead of a person who thinks he is King making that decision.

People like you have these beliefs that everyone should abide by your beliefs, and they are not happy with a rule that requires 9 other people to agree with them, so they do whatever they can, like attach a negative label to a action in a attempt to manipulate someone to do what they desire.

Posted by plague on 8/4/2010 6:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 8/4/2010 8:35:00 AM (view original):
The fact that you think n00braping is fine would indicate that your prefer the Wild West worlds where anything goes.   Can't say I'm surprised that you avoid worlds with rules.

I generally have Libertarian beliefs. I think most of the rules these worlds come up with are bad rules. I can appreciate 32 like minds forming together to play in a world rather than try and push their beliefs on others. I prefer 10 people deciding if a trade is unfair instead of a person who thinks he is King making that decision.

People like you have these beliefs that everyone should abide by your beliefs, and they are not happy with a rule that requires 9 other people to agree with them, so they do whatever they can, like attach a negative label to a action in a attempt to manipulate someone to do what they desire.

Posted by MikeT23 on 8/4/2010 4:06:00 PM (view original):
bigal, I said that on my first response.   So not everyone is missing it.  In fact, pretty much everyone who is against it as used that as a platform.

SP, you really come off as one smug bastard.   By using terms like "understand" and "simplify" you sound as if you think you're the only WifS member to actually complete the 6th grade.  You're not.   As I said earlier, it's less about "understanding" economics and more about "understanding" that this is an online game and how people play an online game that costs them a whopping $8 a month.  It's not "simplifying" the game because cash rules are instituted.  It's making the game fair for those who intend to stay in a world long-term as well as those who may be gone after the season.

WS, that was mentioned before and ignored.  I assume because it doesn't suit the "I should be able to use my fake 5m in any way I deem fit" argument.

 

Posted by antonsirius on 8/4/2010 7:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by plague on 8/4/2010 6:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 8/4/2010 8:35:00 AM (view original):
The fact that you think n00braping is fine would indicate that your prefer the Wild West worlds where anything goes.   Can't say I'm surprised that you avoid worlds with rules.

I generally have Libertarian beliefs. I think most of the rules these worlds come up with are bad rules. I can appreciate 32 like minds forming together to play in a world rather than try and push their beliefs on others. I prefer 10 people deciding if a trade is unfair instead of a person who thinks he is King making that decision.

People like you have these beliefs that everyone should abide by your beliefs, and they are not happy with a rule that requires 9 other people to agree with them, so they do whatever they can, like attach a negative label to a action in a attempt to manipulate someone to do what they desire.

Sooo... as a libertarian, you're OK playing a game with a hard budget cap and restrictions on how that budget can be distributed, but when like-minded owners get together agree to further restrictions on how the budget can be used, they are "bad rules".

I'm a little unimpressed with your ideological purity, plague.

Posted by MikeT23 on 8/2/2010 2:46:00 PM (view original):
If it can't damage a world, what sort of answer are you seeking?   I'm pretty much against it because it's a simple tool for committing collusion, ruining a team and/or damaging a world.

In a perfect enviroment, I know all 31 other owners personally.  They're all honorable men(or women) who would never do anything that could be questioned.  All of them would only be interested in improving their team and protecting the integrity of the world.   They would never even consider an action that would damage a world.  They would reject the thought the moment it entered their head and feel ashamed for thinking it.

Sadly, I don't ride a beautiful unicorn on streets paved with gold on my way to the Free Candy Store.  This is the internet.

Posted by antonsirius on 8/4/2010 7:47:00 PM (view original):
"I generally have Libertarian beliefs. I think most of the rules these worlds come up with are bad rules."

They can't possibly be worse, from a libertarian perspective, than the basic rules of the game itself, plague.

I'm saying don't play the libertarian card to justify your opinions when the game itself is about as anti-libertarian as you can get.

Posted by MikeT23 on 8/4/2010 7:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 8/2/2010 2:46:00 PM (view original):
If it can't damage a world, what sort of answer are you seeking?   I'm pretty much against it because it's a simple tool for committing collusion, ruining a team and/or damaging a world.

In a perfect enviroment, I know all 31 other owners personally.  They're all honorable men(or women) who would never do anything that could be questioned.  All of them would only be interested in improving their team and protecting the integrity of the world.   They would never even consider an action that would damage a world.  They would reject the thought the moment it entered their head and feel ashamed for thinking it.

Sadly, I don't ride a beautiful unicorn on streets paved with gold on my way to the Free Candy Store.  This is the internet.

What did you think of this one, bigal?

I thought the "beautiful unicorn" part was pure genius.

Someone will argue that most trades are a "bidding process".   I'd call BS but some will argue it.  People believe if they post "Looking to move Johnny Appleseed.  Will take best offer" in the world chat, they have started the "bidding process".    For the most part, they accept the first deal offered within a couple of hours.  Hardly a process if you ask me.