The sad thing is that it could impact everybody. Any commish can make a new rule, tell admin there was a secret vote, and admin will support it. You don't care now because you're not involved. You would if you were involved.

I do tend to like things to be fair for everybody. If that equals complaining, then I am guilty as charged. It's a trait that is admired in the real world, but it admittedly looks a lot more whiny in writing.
8/13/2010 4:00 PM
Like you, I've had many "bouts" with ADMIN and CS.   I know what they will/won't do. 

As I said before, I believe ANYONE could negotiate their way out of being forcibly removed because the "rules" are so vague.    I believe the "big stick" JVF thinks he's weilding is made of balsa wood.  That's why it wouldn't bother me one way or the other if I was directly involved.   I'd love to see him attempt to get anyone removed for tanking when he doesn't describe tanking or failure to "pay attention to their minors" when no one has a clue what he means or "blowing up the chat MikeT-style" when MikeT doesn't even know what that means. 

That's why I can make fun of JVF, you and committeewood.   You guys are arguing over a quarter when there's a stack of hundreds within arm's reach.
8/13/2010 4:12 PM
By the way, he stole rule #4 from MG.   And, until someone produces a better way, I'm the sole judge of what is/isn't current/future BL-quality.  Fortunately, we have a bunch of good owners and it's not something I expect to call anyone on.   But, if I do, we'll get 20 vetoes and the deal will have to be re-done.   A world is only as good as it's owners.   

Which, if you consider yourself a good owner, is why I say "Walk away".    Every time a good owner leaves a world, it makes it that much harder to maintain the quality of the world.
8/13/2010 4:17 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/13/2010 4:17:00 PM (view original):
By the way, he stole rule #4 from MG.   And, until someone produces a better way, I'm the sole judge of what is/isn't current/future BL-quality.  Fortunately, we have a bunch of good owners and it's not something I expect to call anyone on.   But, if I do, we'll get 20 vetoes and the deal will have to be re-done.   A world is only as good as it's owners.   

Which, if you consider yourself a good owner, is why I say "Walk away".    Every time a good owner leaves a world, it makes it that much harder to maintain the quality of the world.
I joined a couple of randall's leagues and left a few crappy worlds. I will leave this one eventually too, but I'd like to get a return on my investment first. I'll let jv pay me to go away to speed up that return, but he's going to have to up the offer quite a bit.
8/13/2010 4:45 PM
You don't often see extortion efforts conducted in public like this. At least by people who are not Scott Boras.
8/13/2010 4:52 PM
I think we disagree on the meaning of "investment".    I plunk down my $25 to play a game for 3 months.  If I get a full three months, I've got my "investment" back. 
8/13/2010 4:57 PM
Posted by antonsirius on 8/13/2010 4:52:00 PM (view original):
You don't often see extortion efforts conducted in public like this. At least by people who are not Scott Boras.

Or Congress

8/13/2010 5:10 PM
True. hartjh is no Ben Nelson.
8/13/2010 6:29 PM
LOL - it's not extortion when someone offers it to you, it's negotiating.  He brought it up, I'm just letting him know the terms I might be willing to accept.
8/13/2010 6:42 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 8/13/2010 4:57:00 PM (view original):
I think we disagree on the meaning of "investment".    I plunk down my $25 to play a game for 3 months.  If I get a full three months, I've got my "investment" back. 
Money isn't the only investment I've made.
8/13/2010 6:43 PM
Everyone invests time.  You never get time back.  That's the thing about time.  Once it's passed, it is gone.
8/13/2010 7:09 PM
Wow, Mike is getting philosophical now!
8/13/2010 7:25 PM
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Posted by coach34 on 8/14/2010 3:50:00 PM (view original):
as someone that has been in a world with hartjh14, its worth paying whatever it takes to get him to leave...Kruk has been a much better place since he left
Great - another stalker.  I already blocked you from sending me site mails...take that as a clue.

Every world filled with retards is better off with out me because they won't have to deal with me calling them out on anything...I'm better off not being there as well.  That place was alias central according to admin, but nobody was willing to do anything about it.  Not admin, not the commish.  The worlds I'm in that are run by strong commishes with quality owners and strongly enforced rules never hear a peep from me.  I'll let you know that isn't a coincidence.
8/14/2010 8:31 PM (edited)
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