How to get rid of high salary players? Topic

punkzip
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If I have some older high salary players with multi-year contracts from a team I took over, how do I get rid of them? I can't trade them, and I doubt anyone will pick them up if I waive them. If I release them, am I responsible for the entire term of their contract?
8/19/2010 9:54 PM
orrdc
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Only thing you can do is offer em up in trade and just hope someone takes a flier on one, and of course their is no reason to NOT waive them and hope someone grabs one. 

If you release them their contract is on your books
8/19/2010 10:05 PM
tecwrg
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Yes, if you release them, you're on the hook for the rest of their contract.  Less $327k a season if they are subsequently signed by another team.

Trading or getting them picked up on waivers is the only way to rid yourself of them.
8/19/2010 10:05 PM
dwoolery
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You could also try offering another owner one of your prospects in a package with the overpaid vet if you really need to move the player.
8/19/2010 11:24 PM
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Offer to pay this year's saalry in a trade. If someone is making a playoff push that might help, especially if you don't ask for much value in return.
8/20/2010 8:56 AM
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I also find it helpful to explain what you're doing the in the world chat.  The quality of player you're going to be getting back will appear to be much less than what you're giving up, so alerting other owners to the fact that your trading partner is taking on a bad contract will stop a lot of questions before they're asked.
8/20/2010 9:23 AM
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If they have any value, use them.  If they have no value, you aren't getting anything in trade.  Giving up useful players for nothing but cap space is a losing proposition.  Half the HBD universe is in perpetual rebuild mode.  That's why people like me can make the playoffs 2/3 of the time.   If I can figure out how to squeak out 88 wins, I feel like I've got about a 95% chance of making the playoffs.   I often beat out an 84 win team that traded a couple of long-term, useful players so they could "rebuild". 
8/20/2010 9:38 AM
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Waive them after the trade deadline and hope someone doesn't look at how many years are left... I know i've almost picked up a couple of nasty contracts like that... Very grateful for the next season salary cap stopping those moves.
8/20/2010 9:58 AM
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Posted by Crump123 on 8/20/2010 9:58:00 AM (view original):
Waive them after the trade deadline and hope someone doesn't look at how many years are left... I know i've almost picked up a couple of nasty contracts like that... Very grateful for the next season salary cap stopping those moves.

Yeah that will endear you to other owners for future negotiations...hope they don't notice.  Find the suckers....

8/20/2010 10:50 AM
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I usually waive everyone on my 40.   Some are revocable, some aren't.   That's the chance you take when you claim someone.  

I'm not one to "hope to find a sucker" but owners really need to check contracts before claiming players.
8/20/2010 10:56 AM
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Posted by MikeT23 on 8/20/2010 9:38:00 AM (view original):
If they have any value, use them.  If they have no value, you aren't getting anything in trade.  Giving up useful players for nothing but cap space is a losing proposition.  Half the HBD universe is in perpetual rebuild mode.  That's why people like me can make the playoffs 2/3 of the time.   If I can figure out how to squeak out 88 wins, I feel like I've got about a 95% chance of making the playoffs.   I often beat out an 84 win team that traded a couple of long-term, useful players so they could "rebuild". 
I'm going to say this is partially correct.

Giving up useful players for nothing but cap space is a losing proposition - yes.

Giving up useful players for cap space if you use that cap space to obtain something more useful to you - better.

And sometimes, albeit rarely, that means floating a bad contract on the waiver wire to see if you get a bite. eg; if the turd is Long A material and, by some miracle, you get a bite, and you then turn that money around to obtain a #3 starter as an FA, then mission accomplished.

Cap space for the sake of cap space is a waste.
8/20/2010 10:57 AM
deathinahole
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Posted by MikeT23 on 8/20/2010 10:56:00 AM (view original):
I usually waive everyone on my 40.   Some are revocable, some aren't.   That's the chance you take when you claim someone.  

I'm not one to "hope to find a sucker" but owners really need to check contracts before claiming players.
Oh, I am. I always hope to find a sucker.

"Oh, I'm sorry you claimed that player. My fault".
8/20/2010 10:58 AM
toddcommish
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Posted by MikeT23 on 8/20/2010 10:56:00 AM (view original):
I usually waive everyone on my 40.   Some are revocable, some aren't.   That's the chance you take when you claim someone.  

I'm not one to "hope to find a sucker" but owners really need to check contracts before claiming players.
This is always an entertaining period in MG.  The waiver wire is filled with pretty much every ML player with > minimum salary at some point.

Unfortunately, MG owners are usually pretty savvy about picking up ugly contracts... unlike the Chicago White Sox (see Rios, Alex) and the Yankees (see Canseco, Jose)
8/20/2010 12:12 PM
deathinahole
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"Ok, JP. What do you want for Alex?"

"I want you to pick up the full albatross contract. Thanks Kenny!"
8/20/2010 2:03 PM
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Posted by silentpadna on 8/20/2010 10:50:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Crump123 on 8/20/2010 9:58:00 AM (view original):
Waive them after the trade deadline and hope someone doesn't look at how many years are left... I know i've almost picked up a couple of nasty contracts like that... Very grateful for the next season salary cap stopping those moves.

Yeah that will endear you to other owners for future negotiations...hope they don't notice.  Find the suckers....

Really?

I'm on the hook because my leaguemates are stupid?
8/20/2010 2:11 PM
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