Surprisingly Great Offers Topic

What should you do if your own departing FA says, "Unless you really surprise me with a great offer, I'm filing for free agency?" Is there like a rule-of-thumb percentage above his asking price that you should offer?
9/15/2010 6:57 AM
Update: He's asking 4 years @ $5.4 million per, and I offered 4 years @ $7.4 million. He came back with, "Let's work together and get this done; we're real close to a deal."
9/15/2010 7:04 AM
sounds like $8 might do it, which would be a 50% bump, right?
9/15/2010 7:58 AM
My first offer was a 27 percent raise over his asking price, and an $8 million offer would be a 32 percent raise. I think I'm going to offer $8.1 million – one-third more than his initial asking price – unless someone tells me otherwise.
9/15/2010 8:04 AM
$8.1M is 50% more than his initial asking price.
9/15/2010 8:26 AM
Posted by deanod on 9/15/2010 8:26:00 AM (view original):
$8.1M is 50% more than his initial asking price.
Your are correct. I am dumb at math.
9/15/2010 8:28 AM
I've gotten players back just by adding a year at their asking price.
9/15/2010 8:32 AM
I've been rejected when doubling their asking price.
9/15/2010 8:32 AM
Posted by iain on 9/15/2010 8:32:00 AM (view original):
I've gotten players back just by adding a year at their asking price.
Good idea. I'm going to try that first.
9/15/2010 8:34 AM
Let us know how it goes.  I've always gotten the guy back doing that, but it has only come up 2-3 times, so it's hardly a good sample set from which to work.
9/15/2010 8:55 AM
I offered my dude 5 years @ $5.4 million (his initial asking price per season, but with an additional season on a mutual option) and a no-trade clause to sweeten the deal. (He'd get 10/5 rights in the second year of the deal, anyway.) He replied: "Come back with another zero or two and we’ll talk. Otherwise I’m filing for free agency."

I think I'll counter with 4 years @ $8.1 million and see how that goes. Glad I woke up early and made my first offer before the 7 a.m. cycle, to give myself some extra time to negotiate.
9/15/2010 11:22 AM
I am going to be facing this situation with my ace soon.  I am interested to know how this situation plays out for you.
9/15/2010 11:53 AM
FWIW, I went to arbitration once with him and then signed him to a four-year, $5.4 million deal that just expired. He refused to renew last season, and his patience/temper/makeup ratings are 38/68/84. He's a closer.
9/15/2010 1:01 PM
He's not signing.  He wants to play for the Muskies . . . we hope.
9/15/2010 1:05 PM
Sorry to disappoint you, hutch, but he signed his 4-year, $8.1 million offer. I gave him a mutual option, but not the no-trade clause.

Final verdict: A 50 percent increase over his asking price did the trick. But I'm nearly certain, given his low patience, that he would not have signed anything if I had taken him to that second year of arbitration.
9/15/2010 3:06 PM
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