Hold on a minute.    Tanking is tanking.   If the world accepts it, well, the world accepts it.   And, quite frankly, we have pretty solid MWR in both worlds I commish.  I don't check people's rosters to make sure they have their best players on it nor do I bother to check roster moves.   Despite MWR, I know owners still tank.  They just do it at a level which is either A) not bad enough to string them up or B) just good enough to get them booted.

A team in that same world had a 4 year span where it won 198 games.  After a 37 win season it sprang to 87 wins and the play offs..  So I'm guessing that tanking is an acceptable strategy in this world..  So that Ranger had to do what he did to compete with whats going on in this world..

"So I'm guessing that tanking is an acceptable strategy....."

Yes.  But it's still tanking.   I left a world that accepted is a "strategy".    But it's still tanking.

Posted by MikeT23 on 9/6/2011 4:09:00 PM (view original):
"So I'm guessing that tanking is an acceptable strategy....."

Yes.  But it's still tanking.   I left a world that accepted is a "strategy".    But it's still tanking.

In some worlds it may be called tarding rather then tanking...??

The world I left called it a "sound strategy".    But it's still tanking.

I'm imagining an actual franchise with a AAA team thats better than a ML team.  That's funny.

Call it whatever you want, but very simply, it's wrong to do.  This game is supposed to replicate real life as best as it can.  Running a franchise this way would get you fired if you were an actual GM, and goes against the spirit of this game. 

That's why there are 160+ worlds.  A number can consider this an "acceptable" or "sound" strategy.  Others can screen owners and keep the known tankers out.  In the end, there's something for everybody.

If a player/prospect is still appreciably progressing, there is no way it is tanking to hold him back in the minors.  Age isn't a real factor because players peak at all different ages.  For example, a 23 year old IFA that is OVR 74 (projected OVR 77) and his updates have slowed way down is no longer appreciably progressing and should be called up. 

The player in this case still had three big years of progression ahead of him, so no owner would be obligated to call him to the Majors, regardless of the talent there.  If there was a MWR, I may have had to to meet it, but there was not.  With a player still in big progression years, it is up to the owner whether or not he wants to call him up, or send him down, he can do what he pleases with said player.  The fact that I called him up for a half a year only to put him back in AAA the following year is not tanking and no rational owner would say it is.  

While I cannot control what anyone here thinks, I think anyone who called the situation in question tanking is wrong, no tanking was involved.  Some board Trolls such as Tec like to use this forum as a stage to make himself feel important and that is fine, he can have his opinion.

Blah blah blah.

I stopped here because the stupid alarm went off:

"If a player/prospect is still appreciably progressing, there is no way it is tanking to hold him back in the minors."

Tanking and player progression have very little in common.  Tanking is losing or not attempting to win in order to better your team in future seasons.   Player progression is the development of players.   If you're not competitive and you have better players in the minors, there's a real good chance you're tanking.   If you admit your AAA team was better than your BL team, you were tanking.

That's really all there is to it.

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The fact that I called him up for a half a year only to put him back in AAA the following year is not tanking and no rational owner would say it is.

Remember when the Rays called up David Price for the 2008 playoff push and sent him back to AAA for the following season to win a AAA world series? Yeah, I don't, either. What you did was tanking, and what you're doing now is attempting to justify it.

Shockingly, the season of tanking led to the #1 overall pick in the following season's draft!

And seriously, dude.  Have you noticed the the ONLY person who has even somewhat come to your defense is booger?  Another well-known tanker who is generally considered a moron by those who frequent this forum?  Do you think that MAYBE should be a clue that MAYBE you're wrong?

Wasn't booger booted from a start-up world in the first season for "failure to compete" by ADMIN?    So, even by WifS' weak standards, he's a tanker.

Posted by rangerup on 9/6/2011 7:38:00 PM (view original):
If a player/prospect is still appreciably progressing, there is no way it is tanking to hold him back in the minors.  Age isn't a real factor because players peak at all different ages.  For example, a 23 year old IFA that is OVR 74 (projected OVR 77) and his updates have slowed way down is no longer appreciably progressing and should be called up. 

The player in this case still had three big years of progression ahead of him, so no owner would be obligated to call him to the Majors, regardless of the talent there.  If there was a MWR, I may have had to to meet it, but there was not.  With a player still in big progression years, it is up to the owner whether or not he wants to call him up, or send him down, he can do what he pleases with said player.  The fact that I called him up for a half a year only to put him back in AAA the following year is not tanking and no rational owner would say it is.  

While I cannot control what anyone here thinks, I think anyone who called the situation in question tanking is wrong, no tanking was involved.  Some board Trolls such as Tec like to use this forum as a stage to make himself feel important and that is fine, he can have his opinion.

Blah blah blah.

I think what you did was right on track with whats going on it the world you're in.. I think the fact that your AAA team was better than your MLB team is a sure sign of tanking. If there was a win floor in that world would you have brought AAA guys up to meet it?

Posted by MikeT23 on 9/6/2011 8:16:00 PM (view original):
Wasn't booger booted from a start-up world in the first season for "failure to compete" by ADMIN?    So, even by WifS' weak standards, he's a tanker.

Yes, he was booted from Rickey.. He took the best starting team in S1 dismantled it down to a 50 or so win team.. Admitted he was tanking and then tried to ruin the world by fighting with us when we tried to boot him.. the team he created is stacked and its payroll is at $31M.