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rockindock
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I have a player with a no trade clause in his contract. In the past I have been able to trade players with the NTC to another team as long as that team had a better win record. However in this case the the player refused the trade even though the other team has won three more games than I have.

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9/7/2011 8:24 AM
sergei91
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waive him after the trade deadline or designate him. see if he gets picked up
9/7/2011 8:41 AM
sergei91
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and also, i'm not sure if it goes by current record or current overall ratings of the ml teams  when it's in season
9/7/2011 8:43 AM
rockindock
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Current overall ratings? Determined by what?
9/7/2011 8:59 AM
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world office, reports, franchise rankings

as i said, i'm not sure this is how it goes
9/7/2011 9:05 AM
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Not sure if that plays a part but, when I tried to trade for the same guy, I had to be three games better and my FR is 2 points higher. 

I'd never seen it before.  

9/7/2011 9:20 AM
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I really don't think the franchise rankings are involved. They could be I guess, but they don't tell much of a story. Pretty worthless to me. Besides the other team has a higher ranking than me. 
9/7/2011 9:21 AM
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The team he's trying to trade him to now is 1 point higher in FR.  

Not sure if this is a factor but the player is not a 10/5 NTC.   The NTC was offered as part of the max contract.
9/7/2011 9:22 AM
rockindock
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I have not considered one thing. I'm in 2nd place in my division, the other team is in 3rd place in their divsion. (with a better record than mine). Maybe the standings are involved?
9/7/2011 9:35 AM
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I had always heard that it was W/L record.  Though standings makes more sense.    If a team with a poorer record actually has a better shot at making the playoffs because they play in a weaker division or league, one would think that could look more attractive to a NTC guy.
9/7/2011 9:43 AM
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I would say file a ticket, but I guess that depends on whether you want to complete this trade before the end of this month.
9/7/2011 10:10 AM
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I believe that team has to be 3 positions better in the WW ranking.  I actually ran into that this season...kept waiting for my team to get ahead of the other team.  Once my WW position was 3 better, the player accepted the trade.
9/7/2011 11:03 AM
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Posted by jvford on 9/7/2011 11:03:00 AM (view original):
I believe that team has to be 3 positions better in the WW ranking.  I actually ran into that this season...kept waiting for my team to get ahead of the other team.  Once my WW position was 3 better, the player accepted the trade.
This would make sense, in that the standings can change 3 games in between the acceptance and the processing of a trade.
9/7/2011 11:16 AM
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My WW ranking was 18 when I tried to trade. The other team was 21. Three better didn't work.
9/7/2011 11:29 AM
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How far into the season did you try to trade him? If it was toward the beginning of the season, I believe it goes by the previous year's record. You have to wait something like 30 games before it starts taking this season's record into account.
9/7/2011 11:56 AM
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