Insta-rebuilding a bad team: a video series!!!!!! Topic

Get Gilbert Gottfried to do it -- he'll do anything for a paycheck.

"Look at THIS ******* *******!  **** him, I'm about to send his ***** *** to Triple A!"
11/29/2011 11:21 AM
Posted by deanod on 11/29/2011 10:06:00 AM (view original):
thanks for the props guys, especially for the ones from my biggest fanboy tec.
Don't encourage him.... you'll just make it worse.
11/29/2011 11:34 AM
Posted by baugy on 11/29/2011 11:21:00 AM (view original):
Get Gilbert Gottfried to do it -- he'll do anything for a paycheck.

"Look at THIS ******* *******!  **** him, I'm about to send his ***** *** to Triple A!"

Andrew Dice Clay is also looking to get some work.

"And this piece of ****, he looks like A ****!  OHHHH!!!"

11/29/2011 11:51 AM
Take my Set Up B...please!
11/29/2011 4:00 PM
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Can't share all of my secrets.
11/30/2011 5:52 PM
Interesting.  I enjoyed the Wheeling and Dealing one....which was the only one I watched.

I want to know who the morons were that shipped you Cordero for Cromer as well as Miller AND Sardinha  for Parker.  Cordero and Miller are flat out studlyu.  MIller is an incredibly valuable reliever.

Those weren't trades.  That was Grand Theft.

I'm disappointed if you abused newbies for those trades.  I'm surprised the Miller trade wasn't vetoed.
11/30/2011 10:43 PM
My favorite part was the one where you get 90+ wins this season. 
11/30/2011 11:29 PM
Posted by moethedog on 11/30/2011 10:43:00 PM (view original):
Interesting.  I enjoyed the Wheeling and Dealing one....which was the only one I watched.

I want to know who the morons were that shipped you Cordero for Cromer as well as Miller AND Sardinha  for Parker.  Cordero and Miller are flat out studlyu.  MIller is an incredibly valuable reliever.

Those weren't trades.  That was Grand Theft.

I'm disappointed if you abused newbies for those trades.  I'm surprised the Miller trade wasn't vetoed.
You've got your facts wrong: Deano ended up with Parker and Sardinha, and the other team got Miller. Also, we don't allow vetoes in Moneyball; we're all (supposedly) knowledgeable veterans, so we're free to run our teams however we see fit.
12/1/2011 8:16 AM
Those trades shouldn't have been vetoed even in a veto-permissable world.  By vetoing that you pre-suppose way too much about all of the player values, and you're also insinuating that whoever made those trades are incapable of running their teams (which is true for many worlds, although not the ones I'm in).  The point of a veto is for worlds where you have one shark who does the "3 AAAA players for your ace" to the one and done n00b, those trades aren't even in the same conversation.

FWIW the prospect I gave up was pretty good and is somebody that I would be asking for if I was ever firesaling.  And some things that are obvious in a vaccuum become less so once you're inside somebody else's roster situation.  I'm guessing he wanted to shed payroll to rebuild and and didn't feel like moving every little bit for a bit, so instead just dumped them all for one guy he wanted.  Of course he could have displayed a bit more price sensitivity, but that's his prerogative.  To be honest, I'm way more price sensitive when I'm  battling uphill to make something of nothing.  I've definitely lost a few deals with some of my teams winning 100+, just because giving up useful players doesn't seem so bad when they are buried on your organizational depth chart.  So I'm guessing that going into firesale mode (same thing, opposite direction) made him less price sensitive if he decided that his guys weren't enough to win anyway.  FWIW I don't think he could have gotten 2 Millers if he shopped those guys around a bit more.

The Cordero-Cromer deal wasn't terrible.  Cordero's better than I desereved, but I expected to get something of value for Cromer and I probably would have gotten something 80-90% as good w/o Cordero.  So if iaiaiaiaiaiaiain decided that Cromer was his golden goose or whatever, I probably would have went elsewhere if he said no to Cordero.  I'd rank the Burgess trade ahead of that one on a scale of goodness.
12/1/2011 9:52 AM
There's a key to trading and you have to recognize what you're doing.  Most people don't.   When you're trading with a more successful owner than you, you're probably losing the deal.   deano and I seldom trade, or even talk trade, because he tends to get what he wants while winning the deals.

He and I have made two minor deals in MG.  I'd say he won both of them.  
12/1/2011 10:11 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/1/2011 10:11:00 AM (view original):
There's a key to trading and you have to recognize what you're doing.  Most people don't.   When you're trading with a more successful owner than you, you're probably losing the deal.   deano and I seldom trade, or even talk trade, because he tends to get what he wants while winning the deals.

He and I have made two minor deals in MG.  I'd say he won both of them.  
I definitely didn't win the deal for this guy

whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx

dude got off to a hot start and tricked me into wasting a roster spot on him for 3 straight years
12/1/2011 10:17 AM
Uh, 15 bad innings and not protected on the 40:   Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Richard Aoki

Are you saying I won simply because I cut bait faster?   Seems like an odd win.
12/1/2011 10:30 AM
it's not my fault you think thought piece of AIDS guy was ML worthy.

 

Scanning through my trade history now, having trouble finding a deal that was good for the other guy.  mum's gotten the better end of a couple deals, but didn't exactly soulcrush me or anything.

12/1/2011 10:39 AM
Well I think I might have lost a recent deal pretty badly in American Pastime.  Gotta see what the prospect I gave up turns into first though.
12/1/2011 10:40 AM
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