newer player question about fielding coach Topic

marlinsfan76
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hi guys,
im down to the end in FI hiring.  wondering which is better, i was told that pateince is key to helping ratings improve.

so....

FI with 61 fielding and 61 patience

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FI with 55 fielding and 100 patience

thanks for any help.
12/5/2011 8:50 AM
tecwrg
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Neither one is that great.

That said, there's not a whole lot of difference between a 61 and a 55, so I'd go with the 55 with 100 patience.
12/5/2011 9:09 AM
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I've guessed that 10pts of patience is equal to 1pt of a coaches main rating. Have no idea whether its right, but it seems reasonable so I go with it. So, in your case I'd say the first coach is ever so slightly better, but they're so close that I would be more concerned with how many yrs coaching experience they have, how fast they are increasing their ability, and what their loyalty is (if you're wanting to sign them again next season).
12/5/2011 12:18 PM
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FI are easily the most valuable coach.   Re-signing a decent one is of the utmost importance for budgeting purposes.  I've never seen a coach become more patient but most of them improve their primary rating.   IOW, I'd sign the one with the most loyalty especially if it's the 55/100.
12/5/2011 1:53 PM
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Customer support has stated that the only relevant stat for a fielding coach is fielding - so ignore all others.
12/5/2011 1:58 PM
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Posted by opie100 on 12/5/2011 1:58:00 PM (view original):
Customer support has stated that the only relevant stat for a fielding coach is fielding - so ignore all others.
I would assume that they were referring to other primary coaching attributes such as hitting IQ, pitching IQ, Base Running IQ, strategy, etc.  But I would think that the secondary attributes such as discipline and patience as well as loyalty are always in play for every coach.
12/5/2011 2:18 PM
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7/17/2011 9:29 PM opie100 Does the Patience and Discipline attributes of the FIELDING coach impact player fielding rating development?

7/19/2011 2:42 PM Customer Support No, the only rating that impacts fielding development is his Fielding IQ.
12/5/2011 2:40 PM
tecwrg
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I stand corrected.
12/5/2011 3:08 PM
marlinsfan76
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Thanks all
12/5/2011 3:54 PM
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Posted by opie100 on 12/5/2011 2:40:00 PM (view original):
7/17/2011 9:29 PM opie100 Does the Patience and Discipline attributes of the FIELDING coach impact player fielding rating development?

7/19/2011 2:42 PM Customer Support No, the only rating that impacts fielding development is his Fielding IQ.
The question above asks if PAT and DISC affect FLDG. Obvious answer is what they gave. But it is my understanding that if your FI coach has a good rating in batting, pitching or baserunning, etc, he WILL impact those ratings for players throughout your system. That's why I always look for 1Bs, 3Bs and BCs with good P or B ratings as a boost toward helping in those categories. Frankly, I don't care much about a BCs strategy rating if he has a really high B or P rating. BCs do, however, affect the day to day mgmt operations of you MiL teams.
12/5/2011 9:43 PM
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 - This is the coach's patience rating. The higher the rating, the easier it will be for him to tolerate and coach younger players. Of course, if he's really good in the other areas, his lack of patience may be acceptable.
 - This is the coach's discipline rating. The higher the rating, the more focused he'll be on the fundamentals such as bunting, throwing strikes and hitting the cutoff man. Of course, this means he'll spend less time on some of the other important aspects of his role.
12/6/2011 12:51 AM (edited)
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Posted by torrone on 12/5/2011 9:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by opie100 on 12/5/2011 2:40:00 PM (view original):
7/17/2011 9:29 PM opie100 Does the Patience and Discipline attributes of the FIELDING coach impact player fielding rating development?

7/19/2011 2:42 PM Customer Support No, the only rating that impacts fielding development is his Fielding IQ.
The question above asks if PAT and DISC affect FLDG. Obvious answer is what they gave. But it is my understanding that if your FI coach has a good rating in batting, pitching or baserunning, etc, he WILL impact those ratings for players throughout your system. That's why I always look for 1Bs, 3Bs and BCs with good P or B ratings as a boost toward helping in those categories. Frankly, I don't care much about a BCs strategy rating if he has a really high B or P rating. BCs do, however, affect the day to day mgmt operations of you MiL teams.

From the 12/1/2006 dev chat:

Do all coah ratings impact a team's performance, or just the ratings relevant to each coaches individual role (ie. will having a ML fielding coach with a high batting rating have a positive effect on your team, or no effect at all, all other things being equal)? (will_prosper - Hall of Famer - 1:20 PM)

Fielding instructors only impact fielding ratings. At the minor league levels, bench coaches impact all ratings. 1B and 3B coaches impact both baserunning and hitting ratings. Hitting coaches impact hitting ratings at the big league level and both hitting and baserunning ratings at the lower levels. Pitching and bullpen coaches focus strictly on pitching ratings.

12/6/2011 8:02 AM
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The other thing you might want to look at is age and loyalty because the younger they are the more they will improve year to year.  So next year the 55 might be a 63 and then a 70.  So you might suffer a little for a couple seasons, but they you might have a nice cheap coach in the future.
12/6/2011 10:02 AM
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Posted by torrone on 12/5/2011 9:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by opie100 on 12/5/2011 2:40:00 PM (view original):
7/17/2011 9:29 PM opie100 Does the Patience and Discipline attributes of the FIELDING coach impact player fielding rating development?

7/19/2011 2:42 PM Customer Support No, the only rating that impacts fielding development is his Fielding IQ.
The question above asks if PAT and DISC affect FLDG. Obvious answer is what they gave. But it is my understanding that if your FI coach has a good rating in batting, pitching or baserunning, etc, he WILL impact those ratings for players throughout your system. That's why I always look for 1Bs, 3Bs and BCs with good P or B ratings as a boost toward helping in those categories. Frankly, I don't care much about a BCs strategy rating if he has a really high B or P rating. BCs do, however, affect the day to day mgmt operations of you MiL teams.
12/5/2011 9:48 PM opie100
IF your FIELDING coach has a good rating in batting, pitching or baserunning, does that impact those ratings for players throughout your system?
12/6/2011 1:02 PM Customer Support
No, those other ratings to not impact players at all - they only affect fielding.
12/6/2011 1:05 PM
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