I would avoid doing either one of these trades. The problem with the first one is that the guy is offering you three players that you could find relatively cheap off of the Free Agent pile, without having to trade away a valuable asset to get them. Forget about that. As for the second trade, I like Dennis Patterson quite a bit. He looks like a solid, reliable SP3 to me. But I don’t think Stubby Mays, regardless of what his projections are (which I can’t see, btw), will ever reach the 80-80-80-80 that is an absolute minimum for a shortstop. He is just too old and won’t have enough time to reach them. Those two guys for two all-star relievers and a middle-of-the-rotation starter? I would pass.
However, if you were trying to get younger, a Jose Perez and Doc Ashby for Dennis Patterson trade might not be unreasonable.