Predicting Free Agent Type A/B Topic

Going back to the well for more answers from the wise sages:

How can I help gauge what players will be Type A/B free agents?  I'm rebuilding a poor franchise and I want to maximize the number of draft picks I get.  

What determines if a player gets A/B designation? Some previous posts suggested ratings... is it just OVR? What determines the position group they are in?  Games played like the MLB?

Has anyone employed good strategies to get more picks?
8/25/2011 12:06 PM
based on OVR only.  i believe position clarification is based on fielding ratings...but not positive on that one.  as far as predicting, it will vary by world, best thing to do is just track it for a few years to get a feel...my world is approx:

C               65B/71A     
1B/OF     72B/77A          
2b/3b/ss     74B/81A
SP          71B/75A     
RP     65 B/71A
8/25/2011 3:04 PM
Is this still pretty accurate?  I have these guys that will be free agents next season.  Anyone want to guess what, if any, compensation they'll get if signed?  

 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Derrick Incaviglia
 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Luis Hernandez
 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Mac Jackson
 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Billy McFeely  (note: has a player option for next season at $3.5M, if he declines is he eligible?)

I was thinking about trading Incaviglia. However, if he and these other guys get me compensation picks next year, maybe I should hold onto all of them and invest heavily into the draft next season.  Any thoughts?

1/29/2012 7:07 PM
McFeely and Jackson were both Type A's at one point.  I'd rather have them Type B's I think because no one will sign them if they're Type A. I'm hoping all 4 of those guys are Type B's.  
1/29/2012 7:22 PM
No type As there.  If a guy declines an option, he's eligible for comp.  Incaviglia might not get you any comp.
1/29/2012 9:23 PM
Should the other 3 be Type B's?  
1/30/2012 12:38 AM
I would think so.
1/30/2012 7:03 AM
Are comp picks awarded for players that leave through mutual/player/team options? 
1/31/2012 8:34 PM
Posted by a_ersberg on 1/31/2012 8:34:00 PM (view original):
Are comp picks awarded for players that leave through mutual/player/team options? 
If the player turns down the option, you can get a comp pick.  If you turn down the option, you can not.
1/31/2012 8:57 PM
Posted by jryager on 1/29/2012 7:07:00 PM (view original):
Is this still pretty accurate?  I have these guys that will be free agents next season.  Anyone want to guess what, if any, compensation they'll get if signed?  

 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Derrick Incaviglia
 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Luis Hernandez
 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Mac Jackson
 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Billy McFeely  (note: has a player option for next season at $3.5M, if he declines is he eligible?)

I was thinking about trading Incaviglia. However, if he and these other guys get me compensation picks next year, maybe I should hold onto all of them and invest heavily into the draft next season.  Any thoughts?

It is hard to tell what types you will get with out knowing the rest of the FA Market. Some season have better players then others. One way to improve your chances to get A/B types in changing their positions. Like McFreely mostly will be a Type B as a starter but if you shift his role to the bullpen he will be a type A most likey. With the position players I would check next season FA and see were they would rate as type Bs like you want. I think that Hernandez would find a team as a Type A if one of the offensive groups have a poor market. I also think that McFeely would have no problem finding a team as a type A. On thing to consider is all type A comp picks are taken before all of the type Bs. So as far as drafting the better players you will want to be higher. And Players like McFeely don't have very many bidders so they sign faster. As far as seating for the comp round it is first signed first pick. Now if you want to talk about plucking good draft picks in the comp round that is a whole different thing. I hope this make sense and is not just some rambling of a mad man.
2/1/2012 1:25 PM
Unless I'm wrong, whatever you have the player's position set to is irrelevant.  Simmy judges what position grouping they will be in based on ratings.
2/1/2012 1:30 PM
I have shifted many players positions around I recieved comp picks for them. I just switched Abdul Murray from Catcher to CF and when I search next years FA he shows up as a CF. Maybe I have just been luck and the guys I wiggle around from position to position as still comp picks and I just have not done my math right( would not be the first time). In one of my worlds Miguel Valentin had no shot at type B for a OF/1St/DH because of a crazy strong market for the postions so I moved him to 3rd and he was a type B. Unfortunaly he didn't sign in time for me to get the comp but he was rated as a type B 3rd/SS/2nd. And when you searched for him you found him in the 3rd group. Agian maybe I have been just luck and it has worked out.
2/1/2012 1:48 PM
Posted by unsub on 2/1/2012 1:25:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jryager on 1/29/2012 7:07:00 PM (view original):
Is this still pretty accurate?  I have these guys that will be free agents next season.  Anyone want to guess what, if any, compensation they'll get if signed?  

 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Derrick Incaviglia
 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Luis Hernandez
 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Mac Jackson
 Hardball Dynasty – Fantasy Baseball Sim Games - Player Profile: Billy McFeely  (note: has a player option for next season at $3.5M, if he declines is he eligible?)

I was thinking about trading Incaviglia. However, if he and these other guys get me compensation picks next year, maybe I should hold onto all of them and invest heavily into the draft next season.  Any thoughts?

It is hard to tell what types you will get with out knowing the rest of the FA Market. Some season have better players then others. One way to improve your chances to get A/B types in changing their positions. Like McFreely mostly will be a Type B as a starter but if you shift his role to the bullpen he will be a type A most likey. With the position players I would check next season FA and see were they would rate as type Bs like you want. I think that Hernandez would find a team as a Type A if one of the offensive groups have a poor market. I also think that McFeely would have no problem finding a team as a type A. On thing to consider is all type A comp picks are taken before all of the type Bs. So as far as drafting the better players you will want to be higher. And Players like McFeely don't have very many bidders so they sign faster. As far as seating for the comp round it is first signed first pick. Now if you want to talk about plucking good draft picks in the comp round that is a whole different thing. I hope this make sense and is not just some rambling of a mad man.
It is absolutely astounding that someone with 27 seasons of HBD would post something this totally incorrect.

1) Type A/B comp is beased on all players in the world, not this year's FA class. Top 20% in a position group are Type A, 21-40% are Type B.

2) Type A/B comp is based on the position group Simmy thinks they should be in. For position players, go to the change position screen and check Simmy's Recs based on current ratings to see where a guy will fall.

3) Type A picks do not all sign before Type B picks. Seriously?

4) The draft order in the supplemental round is not based on the order in which the players were signed. It is based on, first, the Type (all As go ahead of all Bs), second, the number of picks of each Type per team (all teams with at least 1 Type A pick will pick before any team makes a second Type A pick; same for Type Bs), and third, draft order (the team with the highest natural draft position amongst teams with at least 1 Type A pick will get the first pick of the supplemental round, and so on).

5) "So as far as drafting the better players you will want to be higher." Did you really just say that if you want to get a better player in the draft, it helps to have a higher draft pick? Do you really think anyone does not know that much?
2/1/2012 2:58 PM
This is one of those Oh Wow things for me when I find out I have no clue what I am doing in this game. I am always trying to learn and learn more. Sorry for the bad info
2/2/2012 11:41 AM
Thanks for all the help.... 

What's the best way to estimate where in the top % your guy falls?  I'm assuming this is OVR rating?  Is there a page that would sort them this way? 
2/3/2012 1:00 AM
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