How do offensive 1B age in the NL? Trade now? Topic

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Wow, great insight on the switch hitter thing. It's so obvious now that you point it out. 

I play in a 1,0,3,-3,-3 park (AT&T) RCF in that park is huge (420). He would need to pull it right down the line in that park, RF corner is 308, and he has a 57 pull/push rating. So I think that is hampering his power.  What do you guys think?
5/12/2012 1:38 PM
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I don't pay too much attention to the power rating, so I can't really answer that with authority.  If a guy has power that is a plus but I don't look for it.  I look for(in this order):
Batting Eye
     --most important rating to me.  They result in high OBP, reducing the amount of outs they generate, and also run the pitchers pitch count up, getting to the pen
Splits
     --Everyone looks at splits, you can't ignore them
Contact
   --Less strikeouts, make the defense work
Speed
     ---coupled with contact, this can make a ordinary looking hitter much better
Switch hitting
     --Magnifies every other hitting rating more than most people think
Power
     --If they have it, its a bonus

Many, many players produce better offensive numbers with lower ratings simply because they are switch hitters.


5/12/2012 7:06 PM
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Posted by deanod on 5/11/2012 5:27:00 PM (view original):
@burnsy- I would too, they just seem to not exist in most worlds.

If there was ever a FA SS with 90/90/90/90 defense who hit .300/.360/500 and there were no salary restrictions I'd probably offer him 5/150.  But for the most part the gap between the best SS and an average one isn't that huge when the best SS in many worlds hits like .240/.320/.350 with 90/90/90/90 D
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5/14/2012 6:18 PM
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Posted by rangerup on 5/12/2012 7:06:00 PM (view original):
I don't pay too much attention to the power rating, so I can't really answer that with authority.  If a guy has power that is a plus but I don't look for it.  I look for(in this order):
Batting Eye
     --most important rating to me.  They result in high OBP, reducing the amount of outs they generate, and also run the pitchers pitch count up, getting to the pen
Splits
     --Everyone looks at splits, you can't ignore them
Contact
   --Less strikeouts, make the defense work
Speed
     ---coupled with contact, this can make a ordinary looking hitter much better
Switch hitting
     --Magnifies every other hitting rating more than most people think
Power
     --If they have it, its a bonus

Many, many players produce better offensive numbers with lower ratings simply because they are switch hitters.


actually I would put power above contact.  If you dont have power all you are ever going to get are singles.  Well maybe doubles if you have awesome speed.  But power is easily more important then switch and speed and marginally more important then contact.  A guy with 100 power and 0 contact is going to hit 35+ homers a year granted he will have an .avg of about .200 maybe even less.  But a 100 contact guy with 0 power will hit no more then .300 and pretty well all of those hits will be singles.  Ofcourse these 2 guys have very good splits....
5/14/2012 8:50 PM
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A majority of the mentors I consulted say "damn dude your team has no power thats why they blow".  So Ive tried to adjust accordingly.   I think power is widely underestimated.
5/14/2012 10:29 PM
rangerup
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Could be.  All I know is my teams win and I don't pay too much attention to power at all.
5/14/2012 10:32 PM
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That's very interesting.  Power is definitely one of the things I look for, more than speed, more than contact.  I find the the 30/80 guys (cont/pwr) are more productive than the 80/30 guys.

I also play in cincy, so that could be one of the reasons.
5/15/2012 10:12 AM
rangerup
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I don't turn power down if it is there, especially for the positions where I can get it cheaply (1B, C, COF).  But I tend to look for value where others don't, which makes it easier to be economical.  If 98% of my worlds are drooling over power, it is much easier to acquire talent in other areas. I would take a .400 OBP guy with 18 home runs over a .330 OBP guy with 30 home runs any day.
5/15/2012 10:32 AM
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18 homers, yes, but that suggests he does have some power.  Better than 80/30.

It really all depends what your needs are.  If you have a team full of .400 OBP guys but none of them can hit a double, thats no good either.

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2006-2011		 G 335 364 404 420 307 8 8 25 +1 0 +2 -3 -3 0.94


You lose a lot of HRs at home. 
5/15/2012 12:21 PM
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You're right of course, the .400 OBP guys would do well.  But so would the .330 OBP/30 homer guys.  My point is more its better to have balance, and have a combination of the OBP guys and the guys who can slug more than one or the other.
5/15/2012 12:39 PM
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Ya, I'd definitly never just "ignore" a rating. Or be committed to an all OBP team or an all SLG team or even an all balanced team. 
5/15/2012 12:44 PM
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I am going to start looking for high patience guys.  Because sooner or later, you will start winning, and I don't want anyone getting angry while waiting for that to happen.
5/15/2012 4:05 PM
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Posted by boogerlips on 5/15/2012 12:21:00 PM (view original):
AT&T Park
San Francisco, CA		 San Francisco Giants
2006-2011		 G 335 364 404 420 307 8 8 25 +1 0 +2 -3 -3 0.94


You lose a lot of HRs at home. 
How would you build a team with that kind of home stadium?  So far, I've been unafraid to get flyball type pitchers and have put a guy who has a 90 Range, 70 Glove in LF instead of having him boot a bunch of groundballs at 2B. So I've been generally looking for speedy guys who can hit for average.
5/15/2012 6:50 PM
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