Factors Determing Number of DITR's Topic

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Has anyone studied what factors may result in a franchise receiving fewer or more DITR's at a time?

(I tried a search of this forum for: DITR factors, got nothing and decided to ask. One is attacked for who knows what in these forums, so that is my plaintif defense.)
9/22/2012 12:58 AM (edited)
crickett13
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Being Commish helps. Just ask rls :)
9/22/2012 9:10 AM
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Someone else will know this, but my recollection is that the potential pool of DITRs is culled from draft picks signed after a certain round and with potential overall ratings below a certain number. Some owners sign fewer draft picks than others, relying instead on tryout camp players and minor league free agents to fill their minor league rosters.
9/22/2012 9:35 PM
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Posted by tedwmoore on 9/22/2012 9:35:00 PM (view original):
Someone else will know this, but my recollection is that the potential pool of DITRs is culled from draft picks signed after a certain round and with potential overall ratings below a certain number. Some owners sign fewer draft picks than others, relying instead on tryout camp players and minor league free agents to fill their minor league rosters.
I don't think it has anything to do with draft picks; I've had plenty of tryout camp DitRs.  Not that that's a good thing. 

Just from my observation, I think it's a rare, random event (~2-3% per prospect per year) among all prospects 24 or under with "true" projected OVR less than a certain number, which I think is in the high 50s.  I have tried to rank players higher for the draft with projected OVR in the high 50s who for whatever reason (usually low DUR or ST) would become valuable after a DitR, but no player I've ever drafted for that reason has been lucky enough to get one.
9/22/2012 9:46 PM
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If I'm not mistaken that number is 50OVR.

I can't recall ever having a player over 50OVR get a DITR.



9/25/2012 4:14 PM
iain
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You won't get any without any active teams.  That much I can promise.
9/25/2012 9:26 PM
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Are you sure?  Have you NOT had any active teams in order to confirm?
9/25/2012 9:41 PM
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Posted by mchalesarmy on 9/25/2012 4:14:00 PM (view original):
If I'm not mistaken that number is 50OVR.

I can't recall ever having a player over 50OVR get a DITR.



No, I think it's high 50's.
9/25/2012 9:59 PM
mchalesarmy
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Cool, now I'm going to spend all day trying to find that number...

As to whether or not players just drafted can get a DITR. The answer is definitely yes.
9/26/2012 8:21 AM
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Posted by tecwrg on 9/25/2012 9:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mchalesarmy on 9/25/2012 4:14:00 PM (view original):
If I'm not mistaken that number is 50OVR.

I can't recall ever having a player over 50OVR get a DITR.



No, I think it's high 50's.
Are you talking current ratings or "true" projected ratings?
9/26/2012 9:49 AM
tecwrg
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True projected OVR.

And I may want to reevaluate my answer. 

Very small sample size, but I looked at handful of guys who recently received DITR bumps in one of my worlds, and looked at the projected OVR rating that my $20m draft scouting budget saw them at when they were prospects.  Of the nine guys I was able to match up, the highest projected OVR (with $20m scouting budget) was 51.

The "high 50's" number that I stated earlier was from my casual observations with lower (and therefore less accurate) scouting budgets,

I'm going to continue to keep looking at this in all my worlds going forward.
9/26/2012 9:57 AM (edited)
mchalesarmy
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Projected should be irrelevant to the discussion.



9/26/2012 12:18 PM
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Posted by mchalesarmy on 9/26/2012 12:18:00 PM (view original):
Projected should be irrelevant to the discussion.



Why?  Projected is a factor in whether or not a player is a candidate for DITR.  It seems quite relevant.

9/26/2012 1:15 PM
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Posted by mchalesarmy on 9/26/2012 12:18:00 PM (view original):
Projected should be irrelevant to the discussion.



He's not talking about the projections that we see based on our scouting - he's talking about the ACTUAL potential in the system for the player.  If projections didn't factor in, there'd be nothing stoping a stud HS'er you just drafted that still has a low OVR from getting the DITR bump.
9/26/2012 1:23 PM
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Because projections, even with 20m, are not 100% accurate. 
9/26/2012 1:27 PM
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