Bynum is a freak talent.... He just needs a head on his shoulders now...

and a little luck with his health

Posted by caesari on 1/2/2012 1:27:00 PM (view original):
Bynum is a freak talent.... He just needs a head on his shoulders now...

and he still needs the ball.

Pau and Bynum shot the ball combined 27 times hitting on 15 of those attempts

Kobe by himself shot the ball 28 times and hit on 6 of those attempts

that doesnt work

Bynum is amazing when healthy, hopefully he stays that way so I can pat myself on the back for paying $20 for him in my fantasy auction.  And then blows out his knee for the playoffs :P

this just in: we have the best center in the west and Dwight better look out for that #1 spot (if Drew stays healthy)

I still make the trade, but more and more I dont think I add Pau and Otis Smith can kiss my butt and take it or leave it

The Lakers should forget about Howard and concentrate on getting a PG who can stay in front of the opposition once in a while.

Posted by felonius on 1/4/2012 7:31:00 AM (view original):
this just in: we have the best center in the west and Dwight better look out for that #1 spot (if Drew stays healthy)

I still make the trade, but more and more I dont think I add Pau and Otis Smith can kiss my butt and take it or leave it

I don't know, Dwight is so good that it's hard to imagine Bynum reaching that level.

 

That said, Bynum looks amazing and is certainly a top 10 player in his current state.  Bynum and a crappy pick is looking way more attractive than Brook Lopez and 5 crappy picks.

thats what Im thinking - take Howard for Bynum and a pick and feel better about the knees but keep pau a pick and the trade exception and look elsewhere

I'm indifferent towards Howard.  6'10 centers who can barely play with their backs to the basket and have shown very little improvement in their skill set since their rookie year tend to put me off a bit.  Dude is a freakish athlete for sure, and durability is certainly a factor in the decision, but beyond athleticism and durability, where does Howard outshine Bynum?

More importantly, is athleticism and durability enough?  Bynum is a more talented basketball player.  He's bigger and longer.  He's not the shot blocker Howard is, but he controls the paint better.  Bynum has softer hands, more range, and can hit free throws.  Bynum is a better passer. 

One final thing - swap Bynum for Howard and keep the rest of the teams the same.  Now, Howard goes from being the #1 option with 30 touches a game to the #2 option with 15.  Bynum goes from 15 touches to 30.  What sort of numbers will they put up?

I'd say:  Howard averages 16 and 13, Bynum averages 25 and 15.

In other words, all else being equal, Bynum and Howard are, too.

So maybe durability IS enough?

first, long time no see, welcome back

second, I think Howard has developed more of a post game than you're giving him credit for though Bynum is clearly better on that end of the floor - I'd like to see more consistency and better conditioning from Bynum before I start thinking of him on the same level as Howard in terms of defense and rebounding

and finally, Matt Barnes is ballin

Hoopie, Dwight is the best defensive player in the league by like a mile, which is why he's considered the 1B player in the league to LeBron's 1A.  He's really good.

When has Bynum even sniffed Howard's production for a stretch that is > 10 games?

And even though Dwight's offensive repertoire is limited, he still does manage 20 ppg on 60% shooting, which is pretty rad as far as garbage scorers go.  Bynum is better at creating for himself in the low post, but w/ Kobe as the go to guy on offense the ability to create for himself isn't that important.

like hell it isnt - Kobe's the only guy on the team who can consistently create his own shots

Point is that with all of Bynum's low post skills he puts up less volume at the same TS as Howard most seasons (granted that Bynum looks like he could end up matching this year)

Other point being that creating your own shot is most important down the stretch of close games, but tie game with 5 seconds left you still have Kobe to close the game whereas Orlando has nobody and therefore loses a bunch of close games.

So since you have your closer for the last 2 mins already, you're not really losing anything offensively by playing Howard instead of Bynum for the first 46.