Posted by felonius on 7/31/2012 9:11:00 PM (view original):
I've only been on the site a couple of years but I have to agree all the negativity from the veterans probably does turn off prospective users but since their complaints are valid and since admin never responds or addresses their concerns even when the owners provide easy fixes the fault still lies with the site - my opinion but like I said Im relatively new to these parts so take it for what its worth

Veterans like chester_o and some others were a real problem for you

I think discussing a total overhaul from 5 years ago that created more problems than it fixed isnt exactly worthy of a pat on the back

Posted by felonius on 8/1/2012 10:19:00 PM (view original):
I think discussing a total overhaul from 5 years ago that created more problems than it fixed isnt exactly worthy of a pat on the back

AMEN!

I was merely pointing out that they did an overhaul, which means they were at one point making changes.

Personally, I liked the old way things were done better. Back then there was a specific formula for winning, but there were a lot of players who fit the bill and so you saw at least some different winning teams.

Now there is a specific formula which seems to breed success, but it's predicated almost entirely on using combinations of a few specific players.

I've found 3 posts total from admin in the past 12 months.  Very indicative of the effort put into this sim.  They dedicate prolly 2-3 days max to the SIM every year.  I'd say 2-3 weeks of work over the past 3-5 years.  It's no wonder the product is inferior.  Make it right and we stop complaining.  Ignore it and we stop buying.

meanwhile check all the threads with actual veteran advice on team building (ash) or where veterans respond to newbie questions - sure there's grousing but even the grousers are more responsive and helpful to the needs of the newbs than admin is

Posted by felonius on 8/1/2012 10:19:00 PM (view original):
I think discussing a total overhaul from 5 years ago that created more problems than it fixed isnt exactly worthy of a pat on the back

Agree, I thought that the version of the sim immediately before the overhaul was actually pretty good. It didn't have a lot of the features now, but it also didn't have a lot of the current issues, either.

There really is a lot of truth in the old K.I.S.S. theory.  This SIM is just another great example.

The random up and down B.S. is more than I can take.  I'll do my Progressives until I run out of teams, but if WIS hasn't shown they give a d@mn about their product until them I'm done.  It is impossible to "coach" a team where absolutely nothing is even remotely consistant from game to game.  Honestly, I'd be more inclined to stay if every team I put together s*cked from start to finish, but these 6 game winning streaks followed by 5 game losing streaks followed by more of the same, is just more than I want to try to handle.  I've made a lot of excuses for WIS over the last 10 1/2 years, but everyone has their breaking point.  It's been fun.  I'll wish all of you the best when I leave.

I don't agree with everything all3 (or anybody) says, but I can certainly agree with the frustration in general.

Kind of like Shaq taking 8 shots in 30 mins, while Kidd goes 6/18 and Wade goes 10/31 (both teams uptempo of course)?  Is that the kind of random crap that has nothing to do with the usage stat I drafted?!

 

ok i cant help myself:

Date	User
6/18/2012 10:39 AM	felonius
39 trips to the line and so called 'rebound logic' - this loss brought to me by your incompetence
6/18/2012 12:05 PM	Customer Support
Thanks for the note. There can be no response to this sort of comment. If you can construct a normal question, or dialogue, Admin will get to view it and respond.
6/18/2012 12:57 PM	felonius
that's the problem isnt it? the entire board and all your nba users have been waiting years for any kind of response to so many different suggestions and requests and have gotten nowhere and nothing from you - after so much neglect what more should you expect from us but contempt?
6/18/2012 1:36 PM	Customer Support
Thanks for the follow up. Dissatisfaction is fine and fully understandable and your comments have some truth to them. WIS has more time now to devote to its own products so in the time ahead you should be seeing some updates to the current products along with some new products that have not been available before.
7/14/2012 3:08 PM	felonius
'more time' starting when? - this conversation took place a month ago (almost) I just had a particularly random cyclle wherein all the flaws of your sim where on display in their full in-glory - more time when?
7/14/2012 3:54 PM	Customer Support
More time is being given over to WIS products. But, and you are aware, that 'more time' doesn't mean 'unrestricted time' devoted to your specific game. If you can remain patient there will be changes and when they are ready to be implemented notification will be published the forums and 'Release Notes' Thanks.

"39 trips to the line and so called 'rebound logic' - this loss brought to me by your incompetence"

hahahahhahahaha, thanks felonius, i needed that today!!!

Based on what I'm seeing here, it seems there may be reason to believe WIS is working to improve the NBA game for us (as well as other parts of the site it seems).

I agree nothing is perfect and improvements would be good. I agree we should let WIS know we're looking forward to improvements. For now, though, I'll be patient and hope positive changes will come in the near future. I enjoy this game for now; I hope to enjoy it even more soon.