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12 Players, 12 Seasons, Version 4
Reverse the Drafting Order
$120M Salary Cap
You must use your nominated player for playoff eligibility*

This theme is essentially two separate 12-team leagues, with separate player pools and separate drafts, but combined into one standard 24-team league. When you sign up, you must select which group (Group 1 or Group 2) you want to play in.  Group 1 owners will be placed in the NL.  Group 2 owners will be placed in the AL.  There are no AL or NL player requirements or difference in rules.  From this point forward, all rules will be stated in terms of one 12-team group.

Each of the 12 owners will nominate 1 player that has played between 12-15 seasons* in their career. Each of the 12 owners will draft a different season of each player nominated to be on their team. So all 12 teams will own the same 12 players, but each with a different version of that player.

* Note that if a player played 11 seasons, but played for 2 different teams in one season, that counts as 12 seasons (you'll understand why after reading the remaining rules ). 

Of the 12 nominated players chosen, we need 6 hitters and 6 pitchers.  The six hitters should cover 6 of the standard 8 positions (i.e., we don't want three SS nominated).  For players who played more than one position, there will be some leeway on which position you can nominate him at. 

Upon signup, list your player in this forum and site-mail me which of his seasons you are going to use*.  I usually wait until half the owners select a player before I select mine, but for this theme, I will choose my player whenever I find a guy I like. Once all 12 players are chosen, I'll post the seasons selected and the draft order. We will have an 11 round draft to select the other 11 seasons used for each player. Draft order for each round will be based on the HIGHEST cumulative salary going into that round (i.e., highest salary drafts first).  This is the "wrinkle" that I referred to in the previous 16x16 league.  If somebody nominates a crappy player with mostly expensive seasons, and you want to take the cheapest season, go for it - but will you likely pick lower next round.

Here's where it gets fun...
Your remaining 13 roster spots must be filled with teammates of your drafted/nominated player(s). They must be from the same season as your drafted/nominated player. No Twisting. Players chosen in the draft are exclusive by season so they cannot be used as a teammate. If you draft a player season with 2+ teams, you choose which version of that season you want, partial or combined, and can only take teammates from that team (the version you don't take is off the board).  This is how a player with 11 seasons, including one multi-team season can be allowed. Or similarly, a player with 10 seasons, w/ two multi-team seasons is allowed, etc.  Unlike the 16x16 theme, you must roster at least one teammate per player drafted.  12 nominated players & 13 teammates means one of your players will have two teammates.

Salary Cap = $120 million
Seasons - Any
No AAA
No WW
No DH
No Trades
No Clones
No Injuries
No Live Play
*** Stadium must be the one your nominated player played in, during the season you use.
Random alignment, within the respective leagues

See blacklist below:

* "You must use your nominated player" means the player you nominated must equal or exceed his real life IP/162 or PA/162.  If the batter has too many PA, then as long as he plays in 162 games, that will suffice.
1/20/2016 11:53 AM (edited)
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Sign Up List
(Bold = Player's season site-mailed to me)
Group 1 = Blue, Group 2 = Red

Owners List
1. schwarze (Zack Greinke)
2. calhoop (Hugh Duffy)
3. mpitt76 (Jack Chesbro)
4. fatboydad54 (Baby Doll Jacobson)
5. mllama54 (Mordecai Brown)
6. marlowe (Chief Bender)
7. pedrocerrano (Adonis Terry)
8. Chisock (Bob Locker)
9. slainte (Ed Walsh)
10. njbigwig (Cap Anson)
11. alice (Jason Varitek)
12. shysters3 (Hack Wilson)
13. ff09 (Victor Martinez)
14. cholatse (Billy Hamilton)
15. Jtpsops (Chick Fraser)
16. calhoop#2 (Clark Griffith)
17. schwarze#2 (Frank Dwyer)
18. slainte#2 (Vince Coleman)
19. shysters3#2 (Jesse Tannehill)
20. Jtpsops#2 (TonyLazzeri)
21. njbigwig#2 (Wes Ferrell)
22. pedrocerrano#2 (Frank Baker)
23. mllama54#2 (Hughie Jennings)
24. bsm7 (Frank Thomas)

Wait List:
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2.

Site-mail list:
alice; bsm7; calhoop; Chisock; cholatse; fatboydad54; ff09; Jtpsops; marlowe; mllama54; mpitt76; njbigwig; pedrocerrano; schwarze; shysters3; slainte
 

1/21/2016 7:22 PM (edited)
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Nominated Players List
(Six of the eight positions will be filled in each group)

Group 1
C Jason Varitek (14 seasons)
1B Frank Thomas (15 seasons)
2B Tony Lazzeri (15 seasons)
OF Baby Doll Jacobson (15 seasons)
OF Hugh Duffy (14 seasons)
OF Hack Wilson (12 seasons)

P  Jack Chesbro (12 seasons)
P  Mordecai Brown (15 seasons)
P  Ed Walsh (12 seasons)
P  Adonis Terry (14 seasons)
P  Frank Dwyer (14 seasons)
P  Wes Ferrell (12 seasons)


Group 2
C Victor Martinez (13 seasons)
1B Cap Anson (13 seasons)
3B Frank Baker (12 seasons)
SS Hughie Jennings (14 seasons)
OF Billy Hamilton (14 seasons)
OF Vince Coleman (13 seasons)

P  Chief Bender (15 seasons)
P  Bob Locker (12 seasons)
P  Chick Fraser (14 seasons)
P  Clark Griffith (15 seasons)
P  Zack Greinke (12 seasons)
P  Jesse Tannehill (13 seasons)
1/21/2016 7:23 PM (edited)
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These players can not be nominated (but they can be used as teammates)

C: Mickey Cochrane, Elston Howard, Charlie O'Brien, Jorge, Posada, Ossee Schreckengost, Hal Wagner

1B: Dick Allen, Dolph Camilli, Cecil Cooper,  Frank Howard

2B: Max Bishop, Bobby Doerr, Tom Herr

3B: Ron Cey, Chipper Jones, Tony Lazzeri, John McGraw, Pie Traynor

SS: Jeff Blauser, Lou Boudreau, Nomar Garciaparra, Rico Petrocelli, Arky Vaughan, Maury Wills

OF: Moises Alou, Tony Armas, Babe Herman, Jesse Barfield, Larry Doby, Fielder Jones,  Roger Maris, Ron Northey, Tony Oliva, Kirby Puckett, Tilly Walker, Ken Williams

P: Johnny Allen, Rod Beck, Jim Brewer, Norm Charlton, Ed Cicotte, Watty Clark, John Denny, Joe Dobson, Don Drysdale, Ryne Duren, Joe Gibbon, Left Gomez, Ron Guidry,  Harvey Haddix, Jim Hearn, Rick Helling, Joe Heving, Catfish Hunter, Brickyard Kennedy, Sandy Koufax, Max Lanier, Cliff Lee, Juan Marichal, Ramon Martinez, Sam McDowell, Jeff Montgomery, Johnny Murphy, Denny Neagle, Gene Nelson, Phil Regan, Allie Reynolds, Mike Scott, Clyde Shoun, Bob Stanley, John Tudor, Ugueth Urbina, Rube Walberg

1/12/2016 5:36 PM
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To determine number of player seasons, choose Pos = ALL, Min Games = 0, Check "Include Secondary Positions" and set Season Type = Full/Combined (i.e., Rickey Henderson has 29 seasons for purposes of this league).
1/12/2016 5:43 PM
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Sign up now
1/12/2016 5:44 PM
mpitt76
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Frank Smith (SP)
1/12/2016 6:24 PM (edited)
schwarze
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Unless specifically requested, I will assume the first owners to join will be in Group 1 (unless the position requirements force them into Group 2)
1/12/2016 6:37 PM
schwarze
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I will tentatively try Zack Greinke
1/12/2016 6:37 PM
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Group 2 OF Baby Doll Jacobson

I think he has 11 years (15 teams)
1/12/2016 9:04 PM (edited)
schwarze
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Jacobson qualifies (15 draftable season/teams)
1/12/2016 6:51 PM
mllama54
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I am in. TBD
1/12/2016 8:13 PM
marlowe
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I'll go with Chief Bender - Group 2
1/12/2016 9:02 PM
pedrocerrano
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I'm in TBD
1/12/2016 9:11 PM
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I'm in with Doc White in Group 2 please.
1/12/2016 9:36 PM
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