Baseline prestige list? Topic

gators55
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I can't seem to find it when I search for it, can anyone link me?

Thanks.
4/5/2011 1:35 PM
ryrun
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Porkpower listed them on this thread, bout halfway down:

whatifsports.com/forums/threads.asp

Here it is if people don't want to go look there:

ACC
Big East
Big 10
SEC
Pac 10
Big 12

A+ Duke
A+ North Carolina
A Maryland
A- Georgia Tech
A- Wake Forest
A- North Carolina State
A- Boston College
B+ Virginia
B Clemson
B Florida State
B Miami (Fla)
B Virginia Tech

A+ Connecticut
A+ Syracuse
A- Georgetown
A- Louisville
A- Cincinnati
B+ Villanova
B+ Pittsburgh
B West Virginia
B Providence
B Seton Hall
B St. John's
B- Rutgers

A+ Michigan State
A+ Illinois
A- Indiana
A- Wisconsin
B+ Ohio State
B+ Purdue
B Iowa
B Michigan
B Minnesota
B Notre Dame
B- Penn State
B- Northwestern

A+ Kentucky
A- Florida
B+ Arkansas
B+ Tennessee
B LSU
B South Carolina
B Vanderbilt
B Georgia
B Alabama
B Auburn
B Mississippi
B Mississippi State

A+ UCLA
A+ Arizona
A- Stanford
B California
B Oregon
B Oregon State
B Washington State
B Washington
B Arizona State
B USC
B- Hawaii
B- Fresno State

A+ Kansas
A- Oklahoma
B Oklahoma State
B Texas
B Missouri
B Iowa State
B Texas Tech
B Texas A&M
B- Kansas State
B- Colorado
B- Nebraska
B- Baylor

A10
B = St. Joseph's
B = Temple
B = Xavier
B = Dayton
B- = UMass
B- = Charlotte
B- = Rhode Island
B- = St. Bonaventure
B- = Richmond
B- = St. Louis
B- = George Washington
B- = La Salle

WCC
B = Gonzaga
C = Pepperdine
C = Portland
C = San Francisco
C = Santa Clara
C = Loyola Marymount
C = Nevada
C = San Jose St.
D+= Grambling St.
D+= Lipscomb
D+= San Diego
D+= Boise St.

Mountain West
B = Utah
B = UNLV
B- = New Mexico
C = BYU
C = Denver
C = Texas Christian
C = Texas Southern
C = Wyoming
C = Air Force
C = N. Texas
C = San Diego St.
C = Colorado St.

CUSA
B = Memphis
C = The rest

Horizon
B = Marquette
B- = DePaul
C = The rest

Missouri Valley
C = All teams

MAC
C = All teams

Sun Belt
C- = South Florida
D = The rest

All other schools are D

4/5/2011 1:42 PM (edited)
gators55
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Thanks pal.
4/5/2011 1:53 PM
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Bump
6/19/2011 9:25 AM
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Big 12 gets shafted
6/21/2011 5:07 PM
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Posted by djp4516 on 6/21/2011 5:07:00 PM (view original):
Big 12 gets shafted
Have you ever been to a Colorado/Nebraska game ;)
6/21/2011 6:53 PM
doomey
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Posted by djp4516 on 6/21/2011 5:07:00 PM (view original):
Big 12 gets shafted
Completely. When this was created, ISU had just completed a pretty good run on NT's and had a EE, but they are only a B... Texas way too low. Especially when you look at some of those Big East schools and the ACC, you know the Big 12 generally got the shaft in general, although (like Northwestern) Baylor is too high.
6/22/2011 12:21 AM
reinsel
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In general the ACC is way too high. 
6/22/2011 3:58 AM
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If Northwestern (or Baylor) were any lower, why would anybody ever take those jobs?  If one is going to enter a major conference in a game that costs money to play, one should at least have a reasonable expectation that there's a chance for success at a given school.  Putting NW or Baylor any lower would pretty much guarantee that those schools would be SIMs for eternity, and that's not good for anybody. 

Total aside, but Baylor has been better at basketball the last few seasons in the real world than 2/3 the ACC and a lot of other major conference teams.  So perhaps Baylor being too high is a poor example. 
6/22/2011 10:47 AM
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Posted by asher413 on 6/21/2011 6:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by djp4516 on 6/21/2011 5:07:00 PM (view original):
Big 12 gets shafted
Have you ever been to a Colorado/Nebraska game ;)
Don't be trash talking Nebraska     
6/22/2011 11:11 AM
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How does the baseline prestige work?  

6/22/2011 4:38 PM
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Posted by jjwarden on 6/22/2011 4:38:00 PM (view original):
How does the baseline prestige work?  

It essentially takes a baseline prestige and compares it with what your "real" prestige should give you and pulls up/down based on that. For example, a team with a B- baseline will take at least 2-3 deep runs in a 4 year cycle (along with no missed NT seasons) and some draft picks to get to an A+ while a team with an A+ baseline will really only need to consistently make the 2nd round or so over a 4 year cycle.. that's why the "elite" schools like Kansas, UNC, Duke, Arizona (lol), UCLA, Michigan State, etc hardly ever fall below an A-.. 
6/22/2011 9:41 PM
elava
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The Oklahoma Sooners are an A- ? In football, maybe. Or did Billy Tubbs win 3 or 4 NCAA titles back in the day, and I drank too many 40oz malt beverages when I was in college and destroyed the brain cells where I used to store that knowledge?

Oh -- and Indiana is an A-, but Illinois is an A+. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggght.


6/23/2011 2:39 AM
jslotman
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And it's a lot easier to drop to a cruddy prestige level than it is to rise up to a really good one.  IMO. 
6/23/2011 4:58 PM
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Just to make sure, baseline means an NT appearance prestige resets to baseline?
9/15/2011 1:19 PM
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