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Trace Hauser has the kind of projections that always seem to disappoint in HBD. Nothing unusually good, but nothing particularly bad except perhaps for a bad split against LHPs. If he were a real life player I'd expect him to average 400-500 ABs a year and have at least one year where he was hot enough to sneak into the AS game before having a horrible second half.

But in HBD, I wouldn't be surprised to see him bounce around like a yo yo between AAA and the Show, waived when he ran out of options, and eventually released when he hits arbitration.

Now check out his Awards page from his 5 years in the minors: 5 AS games, 4 MVPs, 4 silver sluggers, 3 ROYs, and even a GG thrown in for good measure.

I know it won't translate. But I've got to give this kid a shot at sticking on the major leaguer roster this season.
8/18/2009 8:47 AM
rigbystarr
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He'd be a good platoon dh/1b. His batting eye is pretty good, so you can expect him to be productive.
8/18/2009 11:01 AM
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I'd have not problem putting him in the bigs. But then I'm not a very good manager.
8/18/2009 11:13 AM
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If you have a really good slugging 1B with horrid defense he'd be a perfect defensive replacement at 1B and he's not an awful hitter, though not good enough to start.
8/18/2009 12:08 PM
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He makes it under my "any three categories in the 70s" rule. He should do just fine.
8/18/2009 12:18 PM
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sounds like a sorta weird rule.

would you start a 70/0/70/70/0 guy? i would only give him a whirl if he played really strong defense at SS.

even if he was 85/20/85/85/20, i wouldn't start him at DH/1B/LF/RF.

of course, this guy has barely passable ratings for the ML level. maybe he will overperform if you give him a chance...it seems that some players inexplicably play out of line with their ratings.
8/18/2009 1:43 PM
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I suspect that used mostly against RHP he'd put up a .800 - .825 OPS in the bigs. A useful player, but not a star.
8/18/2009 2:02 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By deanod on 8/18/2009sounds like a sorta weird rule.

would you start a 70/0/70/70/0 guy? i would only give him a whirl if he played really strong defense at SS.

even if he was 85/20/85/85/20, i wouldn't start him at DH/1B/LF/RF.

of course, this guy has barely passable ratings for the ML level. maybe he will overperform if you give him a chance...it seems that some players inexplicably play out of line with their ratings
85/20/85/85/20 hits better than .325 every season, guaranteed. Put him in a park that boosts 1B/2B/3B and holds homers down, and he can play any position on the field for me.
8/18/2009 2:36 PM
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i'm skeptical of your guarantee, but assuming it's true, would you play a .325/.350/.375 guy at a power position? cause i sure as hell wouldn't, regardless of ballpark.

and this guy clears your standards by a mile. the 70/0/70/70/0 guy would be downright awful- something like .265/.280/.270
8/18/2009 2:45 PM
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Jeremy Gutierrez

For those of you who don't want to click, ratings are 83/72/57/58/75

This guy has similar, maybe slightly better ratings, and a career OPS of .767 in 2400 AB. I don't know if your worlds are different, but this kind of guy is not particularly useful. I thought he'd be much better, but now I'm ready to finally get rid of him.
8/18/2009 3:42 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By examinerebb on 8/18/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By deanod on 8/18/2009
sounds like a sorta weird rule.

would you start a 70/0/70/70/0 guy? i would only give him a whirl if he played really strong defense at SS.

even if he was 85/20/85/85/20, i wouldn't start him at DH/1B/LF/RF.

of course, this guy has barely passable ratings for the ML level. maybe he will overperform if you give him a chance...it seems that some players inexplicably play out of line with their ratings.
85/20/85/85/20 hits better than .325 every season, guaranteed. Put him in a park that boosts 1B/2B/3B and holds homers down, and he can play any position on the field for me
Matty Cervantes is a very similar player. 86/27/87/83. Career .321 BA with a career .800 OPS (obviously made better by his batting eye, but still). I know some people put tons of stock purely into OPS but I'll take a guy who hits in the .320s and let him knock in high OBP guys all day.
8/18/2009 4:01 PM
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Depending on the league he could be a very decent option. I think being y and the speed pushes him towards being useful. Platoon him with a Rh masher and call it good.
8/18/2009 4:04 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By deanod on 8/18/2009i'm skeptical of your guarantee, but assuming it's true, would you play a .325/.350/.375 guy at a power position? cause i sure as hell wouldn't, regardless of ballpark.

and this guy clears your standards by a mile. the 70/0/70/70/0 guy would be downright awful- something like .265/.280/.27
Don't really give a crap about power positions in particular -- if you have enough power in your lineup it doesn't matter what position they play.
8/18/2009 5:17 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By tropicana on 8/18/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By deanod on 8/18/2009
i'm skeptical of your guarantee, but assuming it's true, would you play a .325/.350/.375 guy at a power position? cause i sure as hell wouldn't, regardless of ballpark.

and this guy clears your standards by a mile. the 70/0/70/70/0 guy would be downright awful- something like .265/.280/.270
Don't really give a crap about power positions in particular -- if you have enough power in your lineup it doesn't matter what position they play
Agreed. Deanod - I concede your point in real life. In HBD, you can get 2B who hit 50 bombs.
8/18/2009 6:25 PM
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Don't really give a crap about power positions in particular -- if you have enough power in your lineup it doesn't matter what position they play.
Agreed.  Deanod - I concede your point in real life.  In HBD, you can get 2B who hit 50 bombs.

I agree. On my team I have a pretty soft hitting LF but has great speed and leads the world in doubles, though only hits 20 HRs a season. I've also played a RF with 17 power as a leadoff man, and had a RF with 0 power in the 2-hole. But I get power from positions that others don't usually get it. My CF has 96 power and my SS has 87, so I get away with it.

My team also sucks... so maybe I should take a second look at this strategy!!
8/18/2009 7:32 PM
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