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hartjh14
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I picked up a team that has 4 1st rd picks and 5 supplemental picks. I'm tempted to go aggressive for the 1st rd and conservative for the supp picks. My thinking is that the 14/14 scouting isn't going to land me the greatest talent anyway, so punting those to get picks next year when I'll have a higher scouting budget might be worth it. I'll then use the 5 supp picks to build some quality depth in the minors, which the team needs.

Obviously if I see a great draft class (can't see it yet), I'll just go for the talent now, but this is what I'm thinking if it's an average (or worse) draft. Thoughts?
12/4/2009 9:54 PM
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What's your Prospect Budget? Make sure you have enough to offer up to 8 mil to a "Probably Won't sign" or "undecided" and still have enough to sign any other draft picks you might want to sign. And they better be worth it if they do sign!

And if you have more than one of those guys you'd have to wait until one makes a decision on your offer before moving to the next, and sometimes they take a while to reject the initial offer.
12/5/2009 12:25 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By hartjh14 on 12/04/2009
I picked up a team that has 4 1st rd picks and 5 supplemental picks. I'm tempted to go aggressive for the 1st rd and conservative for the supp picks. My thinking is that the 14/14 scouting isn't going to land me the greatest talent anyway, so punting those to get picks next year when I'll have a higher scouting budget might be worth it. I'll then use the 5 supp picks to build some quality depth in the minors, which the team needs.

Obviously if I see a great draft class (can't see it yet), I'll just go for the talent now, but this is what I'm thinking if it's an average (or worse) draft. Thoughts?

Feel free to go agressive, but you only get compensationg for your pick -- not the compensation picks.
12/5/2009 1:18 AM
pirateswin2
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they have to reject your initial offfer ( you have to offer what they ask for) for you to get compensation
12/5/2009 8:18 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By pb15 on 12/05/2009
What's your Prospect Budget? Make sure you have enough to offer up to 8 mil to a "Probably Won't sign" or "undecided" and still have enough to sign any other draft picks you might want to sign. And they better be worth it if they do sign!

And if you have more than one of those guys you'd have to wait until one makes a decision on your offer before moving to the next, and sometimes they take a while to reject the initial offer.

I have $20M because I wanted to leave myself options.
12/5/2009 8:21 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By tropicana on 12/05/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By hartjh14 on 12/04/2009

I picked up a team that has 4 1st rd picks and 5 supplemental picks. I'm tempted to go aggressive for the 1st rd and conservative for the supp picks. My thinking is that the 14/14 scouting isn't going to land me the greatest talent anyway, so punting those to get picks next year when I'll have a higher scouting budget might be worth it. I'll then use the 5 supp picks to build some quality depth in the minors, which the team needs.

Obviously if I see a great draft class (can't see it yet), I'll just go for the talent now, but this is what I'm thinking if it's an average (or worse) draft. Thoughts?

Feel free to go agressive, but you only get compensationg for your pick -- not the compensation picks


what is a type d compensation pick?
12/5/2009 9:16 AM
dedelman
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"Very aggressive" just means that you draft whoever is next on your list regardless of signability-- it won't, obviously, seek out signability problems. If you really want to convey the picks forward to next season be sure to rank a bunch of hard to sign players, independent of quality, after all the guys you really want.
12/5/2009 11:05 AM
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I would be careful about "independent of quality" -- they may sign and your stuck with them -- rank the "unlikely/probably won't" players you would not be ticked about signing a little higher than you might have otherwise ranked them - but ignore the rest. Don't rank more than the slots you wish to postpone or they may spill over into your supplemental round picks.
12/5/2009 11:13 AM
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gr-- you're correct about ranking the "unlikely/probably won't" higher becaue the "want to go in the first round" guys may well sign, and there's also some risk with "may sign if the deal is right." But if you go "very conservative" in the supplemental round they'll only spill over into rounds 2-3, where you get Type D picks. And you need to rank more than you want to skip, because you may not be the only one doing this... therefore, you might have to go "very conservative" in rounds 6-25 to fill your rookie league team.
12/5/2009 11:37 AM
hartjh14
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The nice thing is that I have the #1 pick, so I can draft a guy I want that will sign, then list the next 3 slots as guys that may not sign that are good enough if I do end up with them. After that, I'd just list guys I want. That's what I'm leaning towards right now. If the draft is loaded with very good players, I may re-examine that idea. If there's nobody worth the #1 pick in my opinion, I may punt that pick and take my chances with the others. I can be flexible with my approach.
12/5/2009 11:39 AM
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pirateswin and griv's point is significant. The complication in playing for a D Pick is that unlike MLB, HBD makes you agree to the first offer of the drafted player which can be highly inflated. And there is a good chance that the player will agree to accept your first offer. In MLB, you only have to make a qualifying offer which is just below slot.

The other complication is that if any of those 4 1st rd picks and 5 supplemental picks are D picks, you have to sign them or lose them. Unsigned D Picks do not get compensation under any circumstances.

Is it commonly accepted that "Probably Won't" prospects never sign if their mother is the agent but may if it is a real agent?
12/5/2009 11:19 PM
dedelman
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I've seen a player sign, for $11.7M, with his mom as an agent. When I mention this in the forums I don't remember anyone else seeing it, though.
12/6/2009 7:01 AM
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Are true 1st round picks received as Type A comp eligible for Type D comp the next year? I have not found a definative answer on this yet. Vets with long histories have answered this question on both sides, though the majority seems to think they are not.
12/7/2009 12:01 PM
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If you have, say, NINE picks in the first 50 or 60, I would go Conservative for 1st/supp. All 9 of those players are likely ML-level, and you'll get probably 2 that will be outside of slot money. That means you'll be able to basically lock in a pretty good, cheap team in 3-5 years, and likely a powerhouse in 5-7.

12/7/2009 12:08 PM
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14/14 isn't that bad for scouting on 9 of the top 60 picks.

The better question is how did the previous owner apparently have 3 Type A's and 2 Type B's, yet end up with the #1 overall pick?
12/7/2009 12:14 PM
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