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Smith is only through 12 games but the results have been pretty consistent. Don't know how CS can argue the engine is working properly so far based on this limited data. At least they are looking into it.

this is what i've been preaching all morning. thanks for pulling the data.

it's probably also worth noting here that in RL, 16 of the 25 best 3pt shooting teams played outside of the RL Big 6 conferences. only 8 of the best 25 teams in Smith thus far are outside of the same 6 conferences (9 if you count Fresno St). this tells me a couple things:

1) DEF matters more in RL than in HD right now. the stud guards in HD (99 PER, 99 SPD, 90+ BH) are having a field day, even against good defenses. in RL, the smaller conference teams tend to not defend as well, hence more of these type of teams can shoot 3s better.

2) coaching and practice matters more in RL. i would argue since we can't control in game settings, allowing us more practice plan freedom (aka removing potential so we can tailor our teams based on how we want to practice) would make up some of the difference.

although this is only 12 games in, i suspect that as the season progresses, the HD 3pt %s will still end up being 3-4 % high.

In Tark, no team is above 50% at D1, but top 25 are all 44.8% or better.

In other words....absurd. It's 3-Point Dynasty.

And, as to Tark...that is from data 22 games in. 8 teams at 48% or better.

Phelan is 15 games in...Clemson leading the absurdities with a robust 61.7% (but they are an outlier, they have only taken 60 3s in 15 games). Otherwise, there are 3 other teams above 50%, and top 25 are all 44.2% or better.

I'm fourth on that Smith list. In 12 games I've faced eight sagging defenses (average sag: -1.63), two zeros and two plus defenses.

I doubt that's atypical.

yeah, baby!! go big RED!

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Mully, did you send these #'s to CS?

I looked at the same thing for Allen earlier today and it's similar. However, Smith and Allen are only 12-13 games in, I would fully expect percentages to come down once teams get through their conference games.

(That doesn't mean there isn't an issue with 3pt percentage, I think there is, only that the extent of it may be less than the initial #'s show.)

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Quote: Originally posted by antonsirius on 6/08/2010I'm fourth on that Smith list. In 12 games I've faced eight sagging defenses (average sag: -1.63), two zeros and two plus defenses.

I doubt that's atypical.

No one else finds this telling? You all seem to be calling for the numbers to "match up" with RL, but that should only be the case in a vacuum - that is, where everything else is the same as RL also.

If HD owners are consistently packing the paint and giving up open 3-point looks (which by and large is not how college teams try and play D) then *of course* the 3-point percentages should be higher here.

Zbrent - overall FG%s are also up accross the board which would probably go even higher if teams moved out to more + defenses.