WTWD 1989 Prog. - FULL Topic

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We are looking for an owner for the Atlanta Braves, Pittsburgh Pirates and Minnesota Twins  franchises.  We have approaching the 1989 draft...the final season where the draft order will be based on comparing your teams record to their real-life counterpart. Here are the original rules:

WTWD standing for Whatif..Things Were Different.
 

Note: This was the original league post
Basically, there would be no initial draft.  You would select a team from the 1985 season, and that would be your roster.  For players with split seasons between two clubs, the team that the individual had more PA's or IP with would get him.  (If you aren't sure...ask)

Now, obviously, some teams look better to draft based on their 1985 roster.  Well....the weaker clubs may have an advantage heading into one of the strongest drafts around (1986 is a pretty nice one!)...giving them a strong shot at building their team around Greg Maddux or Barry Bonds.  Secondly, the first 5 drafts will have an order based on how your team matches up against your real teams record.   So, if you had the Cards...I'd match your 87 record up against the real 87 Cards.  The better you do, the higher you draft.   This would be done until the 1991 draft, whereby I'd revert to the worst through first order with the first 3 picks randomized.  For ties between teams, ranking would be according to live games played, then head-to-head matchup. Also, all teams would need to make the 40 game live minimum, otherwise missing the playoffs and consideration for the top 3 picks.  NOTE: It was decided upon that ONLY the first 3 seasons of drafting would be based on comparing to the real life cubs.  So, starting with the 89 draft, we will revert to the worst to first style.

Other considerations:

  • there would be a DH in the AL
  • Alignment as close to real life as possible
  • teams not selected in the initial selection process would have their players added to a mini-draft based on the real-life worst to first (order as presented at this link 1985 Standings).  If there is strong interest, we can try to fill all teams and use the same alignment as in real-life...and then when MLB expanded..we expand.  ...and my feeling over that is the new expansion clubs would get the EXACT players that they had in real-life.  So, current clubs would have to plan accordingly as they would lose those players in those expansion years.  NOTE: This is currently up for vote in our forum.  It appears that we may just go with an expansion draft similar to what happened in real life.
  • 40 game live min.
  • 6/4 below average AAA
  • UNLIMITED keepers
  • REAL team names
  • Trading..full trading, but only draft picks up to one year in advance (ie. the next draft)
1/17/2011 8:11 PM (edited)
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Pittsburgh Pirates   Looks to pick 15th in the draft 
Three Rivers Stadium (Pittsburgh Pirates: 1970-2000)
Name Season Franchise Pos Salary
Jose Deleon 1988 St. Louis Cardinals SP $5,530,023
Rick Reuschel 1988 San Francisco Giants SP $5,828,780
Rick Rhoden 1988 New York Yankees SP $3,885,887
Bob Walk 1988 Pittsburgh Pirates SP $6,045,282
Mike Bielecki 1988 Chicago Cubs RP $706,743
Cecilio Guante 1988 New York Yankees RP $1,899,379
Bob Kipper 1988 Pittsburgh Pirates RP $1,281,076
Dave Leiper 1988 San Diego Padres RP $1,687,658
Larry McWilliams 1988 St. Louis Cardinals RP $2,818,123
Don Robinson 1988 San Francisco Giants RP $4,859,573
Bobby Thigpen 1988 Chicago White Sox RP $1,745,141
Junior Ortiz 1988 Pittsburgh Pirates C $1,426,607
Tony Pena 1988 St. Louis Cardinals C $3,748,053
Sid Bream 1988 Pittsburgh Pirates 1B $3,532,784
Fred McGriff 1988 Toronto Blue Jays 1B $5,287,098
Jose Lind 1988 Pittsburgh Pirates 2B $5,005,391
Johnny Ray 1988 California Angels 2B $4,588,659
Kevin Seitzer 1988 Kansas City Royals 3B $4,468,809
Felix Fermin 1988 Pittsburgh Pirates SS $510,791
Brady Anderson 1988 Baltimore Orioles OF $2,151,607
Glenn Braggs 1988 Milwaukee Brewers OF $1,915,704
Ron Jones 1988 Philadelphia Phillies OF $1,086,875
Joe Orsulak 1988 Baltimore Orioles OF $2,517,146
Luis Polonia 1988 Oakland Athletics OF $2,055,312
Marvell Wynne 1988 San Diego Padres OF $2,393,901
Active Roster Total Salary: $76,976,402
12/13/2010 8:05 AM (edited)
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Milwaukee Brewers 88  Looks to pick 4th in the draft TAKEN: likeastone
County Stadium (Milwaukee Brewers: 1970-2000)
Name Season Franchise Pos Salary
Jack Armstrong 1988 Cincinnati Reds SP $977,382
Mike Birkbeck 1988 Milwaukee Brewers SP $2,213,238
Tom Candiotti 1988 Cleveland Indians SP $4,700,496
Jack McDowell 1988 Chicago White Sox SP $3,456,724
Danny Darwin 1988 Houston Astros RP $3,901,619
Tom Niedenfuer 1988 Baltimore Orioles RP $1,036,588
Edwin Nunez 1988 Seattle Mariners RP $378,271
Kirt Manwaring 1988 San Francisco Giants C $1,053,374
Alex Trevino 1988 Houston Astros C $1,118,381
Mike Diaz 1988 Pittsburgh Pirates 1B $1,092,011
Willie Upshaw 1988 Cleveland Indians 1B $2,827,223
Jim Gantner 1988 Milwaukee Brewers 2B $4,066,723
Mark Lemke 1988 Atlanta Braves 2B $336,250
Paul Molitor 1988 Milwaukee Brewers 3B $5,630,365
Randy Ready 1988 San Diego Padres 3B $2,406,909
Ernest Riles 1988 Milwaukee Brewers 3B $2,010,728
Gary Sheffield 1988 Milwaukee Brewers SS $439,365
Don Baylor 1988 Oakland Athletics DH $1,188,040
Ken Gerhart 1988 Baltimore Orioles OF $1,313,824
Darryl Hamilton 1988 Milwaukee Brewers OF $565,218
Active Roster Total Salary: $41,712,729
Bob McClure 1988 New York Mets RP $307,984
Todd Worrell 1988 St. Louis Cardinals RP $2,407,341
Ray Knight 1988 Detroit Tigers 1B $1,102,357
Paul Zuvella 1988 Cleveland Indians SS $463,087
Doug Dascenzo 1988 Chicago Cubs OF $663,264
11/23/2010 5:34 PM (edited)
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Atlanta Braves
Atlanta Fulton County Stadium (Atlanta Braves: 1966-1996)
Name Season Franchise Pos Salary
John Farrell 1988 Cleveland Indians SP $4,271,481
Rick Mahler 1988 Atlanta Braves SP $4,979,917
Pascual Perez 1988 Montreal Expos SP $6,088,503
Zane Smith 1988 Atlanta Braves SP $2,422,723
Steve Bedrosian 1988 Philadelphia Phillies RP $1,401,089
Tim Crews 1988 Los Angeles Dodgers RP $1,473,621
Brad Havens 1988 Cleveland Indians RP $948,371
Pat Perry 1988 Chicago Cubs RP $546,124
Charlie Puleo 1988 Atlanta Braves RP $2,017,757
Frank Williams 1988 Cincinnati Reds RP $988,304
Rick Cerone 1988 Boston Red Sox C $1,433,831
Charlie O'Brien 1988 Milwaukee Brewers C $1,267,691
Gerald Perry 1988 Atlanta Braves 1B $3,940,994
Ken Oberkfell 1988 Pittsburgh Pirates 3B $2,911,070
Rick Schu 1988 Baltimore Orioles 3B $1,393,616
Rafael Ramirez 1988 Houston Astros SS $3,404,943
Andres Thomas 1988 Atlanta Braves SS $3,255,504
Terry Francona 1988 Cleveland Indians DH $1,005,167
Dwight Evans 1988 Boston Red Sox OF $4,316,164
Dale Murphy 1988 Atlanta Braves OF $4,424,495
Milt Thompson 1988 Philadelphia Phillies OF $3,301,083
Claudell Washington 1988 New York Yankees OF $4,233,912
Active Roster Total Salary: $60,626,360
Norm Charlton 1988 Cincinnati Reds SP $1,061,730
Gene Garber 1988 Kansas City Royals RP $540,965
Glenn Hubbard 1988 Oakland Athletics 2B $1,628,313
10/29/2010 3:54 PM
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Minnesota Twins
Humphrey Metrodome (Minnesota Twins: 1982-2009)
Name Season Franchise Pos Salary
Don August 1988 Milwaukee Brewers SP $3,409,398
Mike Dunne 1988 Pittsburgh Pirates SP $2,992,849
Chuck Finley 1988 California Angels SP $3,893,635
Erik Hanson 1988 Seattle Mariners SP $972,123
Brian Holman 1988 Montreal Expos SP $2,163,173
Jimmy Jones 1988 San Diego Padres SP $3,517,353
Frank Viola 1988 Minnesota Twins SP $6,681,713
Jose Alvarez 1988 Atlanta Braves RP $2,080,807
Paul Assenmacher 1988 Atlanta Braves RP $1,769,685
Ed Vande Berg 1988 Texas Rangers RP $549,588
Darrell Miller 1988 California Angels C $1,298,139
Jeff Reed 1988 Montreal Expos C $1,390,002
Kent Hrbek 1988 Minnesota Twins 1B $4,296,228
Tim Teufel 1988 New York Mets 2B $1,495,531
Gary Gaetti 1988 Minnesota Twins 3B $4,342,805
Greg Gagne 1988 Minnesota Twins SS $2,562,385
Johney Logan Prospect AAA SS $200,000
Tom Brunansky 1988 St. Louis Cardinals OF $4,083,678
Randy Bush 1988 Minnesota Twins OF $2,653,245
Mickey Hatcher 1988 Los Angeles Dodgers OF $939,419
Kirby Puckett 1988 Minnesota Twins OF $8,807,559
Active Roster Total Salary: $60,899,315
Rod Scurry 1988 Seattle Mariners RP $364,595
Mark Salas 1988 Chicago White Sox C $1,645,856
Steve Lombardozzi 1988 Minnesota Twins 2B $1,314,002
Brad Wellman 1988 Kansas City Royals 2B $483,345
Bill Buckner 1988 Kansas City Royals DH $1,037,563
11/12/2010 10:58 PM
eman7400
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Ill take another team to get this going either Millwakee or minnesota
11/14/2010 6:21 PM
Dodgerhatr
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decent teams there, I thought they were worse off =}
11/21/2010 12:39 PM
likeastone
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ill take milwaukee
11/21/2010 10:08 PM
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Posted by likeastone on 11/21/2010 10:08:00 PM (view original):
ill take milwaukee
I'll add you to the private forum!  Thanks
11/23/2010 5:34 PM
verynice
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so we only need 2 now right? eman taking Minny
11/26/2010 4:14 PM
habsfan1
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Are you still good with that eman?
11/26/2010 8:21 PM
halpy022foo
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Ill take Pittsburgh
11/26/2010 10:05 PM
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Posted by halpy022foo on 11/26/2010 10:05:00 PM (view original):
Ill take Pittsburgh
Great...thanks...you have been added to the private forum.
11/28/2010 3:58 PM
donaldjtrump
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Doesn't Minny pick 17th?
11/28/2010 5:56 PM
dubrightway
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Is Atlanta the only team availble?
12/3/2010 2:36 PM
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