It's D3, so it doesn't really matter anyway, you can't be fired.  But I agree, I've gotten those messages before also and it's usually been after a pretty good season.  Don't know what to tell you really.........

It was the first year in the last 5 you didn't make the NT, so yeah it makes perfect sense.  Who cares if it was your best RPI, you weren't in the Dance.

so why bother having the PI if success there means absolutely nothing? 

ask that question in real life...

there is nothing wrong with a PIT being "meeting expectations". an NT is exceeding, so where's the issue? 

The PI is for second level programs... If you had been in the NT four years and then missed. It is simple.. You did not live up to the level of previous years even if your team had better talent. Let me give yu an analogy, You win the triple A world series., but you would still rather play for the Pirates or Royals.

the issue is that a "rebuilding year" is going 5-22, not 29-4 with the 2nd best RPI in the history of your program, the first end of season national ranking, and a dominating PIT performance. 

it's not a big deal, i just take issue with the wording more than the job performance.  where i would take more issue with the job performance aspect is if it dropped because it was considered a rebuilding year. 

Posted by bubbakincaid on 10/16/2010 10:52:00 AM (view original):
The PI is for second level programs... If you had been in the NT four years and then missed. It is simple.. You did not live up to the level of previous years even if your team had better talent. Let me give yu an analogy, You win the triple A world series., but you would still rather play for the Pirates or Royals.

i'm not arguing that winning the PIT is the same as winning the NT...but you can't say it's for 2nd level programs either and that just because you made this tournament as opposed to that tournament you are a weaker team.  that is clearly not the case

It was a rebuilding year, you didn't meet your previous level of success.

sorry i don't care what planet you are on or what you did last year, 29-4 is not a rebuilding year.  except for maybe the UConn women's basketball team.  anyhow i would argue that i did meet previous years success when you look at the whole picture and not just the NT. i also dont think theres any doubt i should have been in the NT and i think the end of season results support that.

Well you didn't make the NT, and the NT is worth more than the PIT.  "You play to win the game."  So regardless of which tourney you should have made, you get rated based on what you did make.  Ask any coach, would you rather win 29 games or make the NT, they would all say the big dance.

You seem to be hung up on "rebuild" and RPI.  Do you really think any booster or fan cares about your RPI?  It's about results.  In real life, if your RPI was better in year 2 than year 1, but you made the NCAA tourney in year 1 and the NIT in year 2, which year would be considered more successful?

So it's not a rebuilding year, but it was less successful.  I think you should worry less about the words being used in the email, and more about its sentiment.

Posted by isack24 on 10/16/2010 11:24:00 AM (view original):
You seem to be hung up on "rebuild" and RPI.  Do you really think any booster or fan cares about your RPI?  It's about results.  In real life, if your RPI was better in year 2 than year 1, but you made the NCAA tourney in year 1 and the NIT in year 2, which year would be considered more successful?

So it's not a rebuilding year, but it was less successful.  I think you should worry less about the words being used in the email, and more about its sentiment.

This is a pretty good explanation.

I would rather be barely over .500 and make the NT then be undefeated but be stuck in the PI. Honestly, the NT is what's important. This situation just means you need to schedule better.

A couple of you have said you'd rather go, say, 13-13, RPI in the hundreds, and then miraculously win your CT to get to the NT, than go 21-5 and PT. In RL, I can see that. Your campus and your boosters are thrilled to make the dance, which probably saves your job after a mediocre season. But let's not call it a better season than the other one. My goal is to achieve success year after year. Is the 13-win NT team better set up to do that than the 21-win team? I doubt it.

I was in this situation last year - won 21, rpi 53, but just missed the NT. I then beat five top-100 teams to win the PT, and finished rpi 35 or so. I'm 20-0 this year with a top 15 rpi. So would I have traded places with the mediocre 13-win team that has one good weekend and sneaks into the NT? I would've been jealous of them for a bit last year, but long-term,I'd much rather be in my shoes.

Next years success has no bearing on how good last season was.  The 2 are independent of each other in this scenario.  We are talking about 1 season taken on its own, and in that case, an NT season is always better.  Also, you need to start scheduling harder bhansalid.