Player declares for draft Topic

I've been advised by my junior power forward he's declaring.  I'm new to this whole process.  What happens now.  Will he definitely get drafted?  Does my presitge get a bump if he gets drafted.  What if he doesn't?  The player is http://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=1974413.  I don't know how to hot link in the forum either.  If someone could tell me how, I would be indebted.  Thanks for your help.
1/19/2012 4:28 PM
He will get drafted.

You will get a prestige bump but it will be small and you might not even see it.
1/19/2012 4:46 PM
Nothing wrong with early entries.  Some dude from C+ Delaware should totally be entering the draft. 
1/19/2012 4:56 PM
That's what I'm saying.  I mean his numbers are inflated cause I'm playing all sims in conference play.  I played a tough OOC and he did play well, but still.  I know he was a 3rd team All American as a sophmore, but this year he was just honorable mention, so I figured it would mean he would stay.  I obviously would have preferred he stay as he was my best player, etc.  Oh well, thanks for the info guys.
1/19/2012 5:00 PM
Posted by jslotman on 1/19/2012 4:56:00 PM (view original):
Nothing wrong with early entries.  Some dude from C+ Delaware should totally be entering the draft. 
At least Delaware actually accomplished something (21-9, NT appearance, 91 RPI), so you could make a small argument that EE's could happen there. Even worse than the Delaware example: Also declaring early in Phelan was a player from Ball State (13-15, 186 RPI, no post-season). IMO, if your team doesn't make the post-season, you shouldn't be able to have any EE's, no matter the player's ratings or stats. Meanwhile, my 788-rated Michigan State team (with 5 Juniors) had no EE. Good for me, but it's silly when my team has no EE and Ball State gets hit with one.
1/19/2012 5:25 PM
I think the Ball St. guy just quit. He wasn't an early entry. But there was an early entry from Gonzaga (no postseason whatsoever) and TCU (1st round PI exit).
1/19/2012 5:28 PM
The Ball State case may be special. It looks like the player played 0 games this year. Maybe he was rated very high and the coach decided to RS him, having his WE drop to 1. 
1/19/2012 5:30 PM
Now that I look at it again, you guys are right... it looks like the Ball St. guy didn't go EE. But as shqipta noted, Gonzaga (17-11, 152 RPI, no post-season) is another egregious example of EE's being applied inequitably. This is one area of the game where there is simply too much random variation, both in terms of the teams that get hit with them, and the actual players that end up declaring.
1/19/2012 5:33 PM

There were 19 total EEs with 7 SFs; 11 PFs and 2 Cs. It's pretty strange that there were 0 PG and 0 SG that declared early.
 
Also some more fun info: 

  • ACC-7 EEs ($46228 in recruiting cash)
  • Pac 10-2 EEs ($37,482)
  • Big Ten 3 EEs ($36,232)
  • Big 12-1 EE ($19,990)
  • SEC-0 EE ($13,740)
  • MWC-2 EE ($13,740)
  • Big East-1 EE ($12,910)
  •  
  • Southland-1 EE ($2,082)
  • CAA-1 EE ($1,666)
  • WCC-1 EE ($1,666)
1/19/2012 6:31 PM
Posted by jslotman on 1/19/2012 4:56:00 PM (view original):
Nothing wrong with early entries.  Some dude from C+ Delaware should totally be entering the draft. 
js, send a ticket and tell them how stupid it is. I've been telling seble that he has to do more to protect the non-BCS teams from EE's. It's gotten worse in the last couple months.
1/19/2012 11:57 PM
I urge all of you to send tickets on this issue. The deck is stacked enough against non-BCS teams. I look at Allen and I see some of the non-BCS get victimized by early entries while ACC (and other BCS) teams keep 900+ rated guys, and it's a friggin' joke. It benefits me and my conference mates, but it's just not right. 
1/19/2012 11:59 PM
there are problems still, but lets not use the blanket "BCS team" as the demarcation. I've been stuck at just about B+ at Alabama for 13 seasons. I've won 3 NT games in all that time. I've had 5 EEs, once off a PIT 2nd, 2 the same season off a PIT Final 4. The middle of the pack BCS teams may be in a better place than Non BCS teams (not sure about that) but they are not like the A/A+ teams that seemingly can just about target whomever they please and reload immediately.
1/20/2012 1:47 AM
I feel much, much more comfortable with a B+ Alabama team losing early entries than I do C+ Delaware. Pretty much night-and-day in my opinion. The ease in which a B+ BCS school can go out and get higher level talent simply far, far exceeds what the Delawares of the world can hope to do, and they need some additional protection because of it. The playing field is already too titled as it is. 
1/20/2012 7:47 AM
I also agree that the demarcation shouldn't be as black and white as BCS vs. non-BCS. That's too artificial/contrived a fix, IMO. I'd rather that EE's be tied strongly to post-season success, which would essentially accomplish the same thing without making different rules for different schools, depending what conference they are in. This would also ensure that conferences like the A-10 and CUSA, which have been very strong in some worlds, don't receive protection from having any EE's simply because they are not BCS conferences, despite having had strong success.
1/20/2012 8:29 AM (edited)
Agreed with a lot of what's being said.  Army lost a 750-ish rated guy the other season in Allen (never mind the fact that a guy playing at a military academy in the real world would still have a five year commitment to serve his country, but I digress).  Meanwhile, look at some of the players that stay.  The logic is just completely inexplicable.  Now, with the cap on EE's lost per team but no change in the total number of EE's, you're almost guaranteeing that lesser teams are going to lose more EE's.  It's simply a numbers game, and it really sucks for teams like C+ Delaware. 
1/20/2012 9:52 AM
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