77 Million dollar cap, fun league Topic

Needing 19 more owners (as of march 1st) to join my 77 million dollar cap league.  League number is NBA 39883.  Hoping to fill it soon and I hope to see YOU there!!  This will be fun, hope to see you there :)

NO CLONES, NO WAIVER WIRE, NO ROOKIES.

Thanks for the Business

3/5/2012 1:28 PM (edited)
Not sure what Im doing wrong when it comes to attracting new people to my theme league...HELP!!  What can I do to get people to join my theme league??
3/4/2012 4:00 PM
Hey man.  Thanks for trying to stir the pot and get in the theme circuit.  Here's some quick answers to your questions.

a)  Themes don't fill up instantly - the very best ones take days to fill if not a couple of weeks.  The quickest one in recent memory was my first Over the Hump league which filled in about 2.5 days.  The continued versions take longer and longer to fill.  The renewal of the EOL filled in 4 or 5 days which is amazingly fast these days.

b)  $77M cap is beyond ridiculous.  You can build pretty much the most dominant line-up in the sim for less than $60M.  At $77M you're just wasting money on minutes you'll never use.  Thus the most serious of sim players (which IS the theme circuit - i.e. the people who actually play the majority of themes) usually disregard these high cap leagues.  If you want to do a high cap league that is somewhat challenging AND will encourage roster variation, look at doing something in the $50M - $54M range.  Otherwise, you're going to see Wilt-Ben-Worm-Jordan-Lebron in at least 3 or 4 teams (and then Wilt-Dwight-Worm-Lebron-Kidd in another 2 or 3) with the finals consisting of those squads.  Even in the low $50M's you'll see a lot of the same line-ups.  So if you really do want to do a high cap league, I recommend doing high cap + blacklist (Wilt, Worm, Jordan, Lebron, Kidd being the biggest targets followed by Big Ben, Dwight Howard, Moses & Barkley).

c)  You don't specify rookies, clones or WW in your advertisement here.  I recommend saying no for all three.  Most owners hate rookies at any cap level, and with this being a high cap league, there's even less need for them.  Clones suck major donkey balls at high caps because imagination goes even further out the window (Wilt - Worm x3 - Lebron x 2).  And the WW is again something not needed (in any league, but especially in higher caps).

Good luck with your theme, man.  I highly recommend refining it a little bit and being more detailed in your advertisement - I think you'll see better results.
3/4/2012 7:58 PM
Not to pile on here, but I totally agree with ash here.  The other problem here is that you need to sell the sizzle.  If you want people to invest their time and money on your league in order to give you a free league you have to give them something worthwhile.  Find a niche, something different.  I can (as well as many of the others) crack this league with 60 Mil easy and make it very, very tough on anyone playing against me.

BTW there is a very funny/informational/brutal thread with ash and I discussing this point calmly and respectfully with two, now dead, homosexual lovers:

www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx

3/4/2012 9:01 PM
I just kind of misss that powernow guy - wherever did he go?


(we were kind of like piranhas once there was blood on the water there right? we're not nice people at all)
3/4/2012 9:22 PM
also he and that bob dude were clearly the same user - I still maintain that, they both had the same wierd stilted esl usage
3/4/2012 9:23 PM
Posted by felonius on 3/4/2012 9:22:00 PM (view original):
I just kind of misss that powernow guy - wherever did he go?


(we were kind of like piranhas once there was blood on the water there right? we're not nice people at all)
Felon I am an a$$hole just like that chester-o, e-monk, monkee guy was too.
3/4/2012 10:14 PM
oh sh!t...i remember that thread...great stuff
3/4/2012 10:32 PM
God, that was a fun read.  For the record that league didn't fill and powernow disbanded it after a few days.
3/4/2012 11:05 PM
nope, he went ahead with the 100 Million idea, it needs 11 more people ahaha
3/4/2012 11:08 PM
"we'll see what wis thinks of all this"
3/5/2012 11:15 AM
Posted by ashamael on 3/4/2012 7:58:00 PM (view original):
Hey man.  Thanks for trying to stir the pot and get in the theme circuit.  Here's some quick answers to your questions.

a)  Themes don't fill up instantly - the very best ones take days to fill if not a couple of weeks.  The quickest one in recent memory was my first Over the Hump league which filled in about 2.5 days.  The continued versions take longer and longer to fill.  The renewal of the EOL filled in 4 or 5 days which is amazingly fast these days.

b)  $77M cap is beyond ridiculous.  You can build pretty much the most dominant line-up in the sim for less than $60M.  At $77M you're just wasting money on minutes you'll never use.  Thus the most serious of sim players (which IS the theme circuit - i.e. the people who actually play the majority of themes) usually disregard these high cap leagues.  If you want to do a high cap league that is somewhat challenging AND will encourage roster variation, look at doing something in the $50M - $54M range.  Otherwise, you're going to see Wilt-Ben-Worm-Jordan-Lebron in at least 3 or 4 teams (and then Wilt-Dwight-Worm-Lebron-Kidd in another 2 or 3) with the finals consisting of those squads.  Even in the low $50M's you'll see a lot of the same line-ups.  So if you really do want to do a high cap league, I recommend doing high cap + blacklist (Wilt, Worm, Jordan, Lebron, Kidd being the biggest targets followed by Big Ben, Dwight Howard, Moses & Barkley).

c)  You don't specify rookies, clones or WW in your advertisement here.  I recommend saying no for all three.  Most owners hate rookies at any cap level, and with this being a high cap league, there's even less need for them.  Clones suck major donkey balls at high caps because imagination goes even further out the window (Wilt - Worm x3 - Lebron x 2).  And the WW is again something not needed (in any league, but especially in higher caps).

Good luck with your theme, man.  I highly recommend refining it a little bit and being more detailed in your advertisement - I think you'll see better results.
Thanks Ash, I did totally overlook the simple rooks, WW & clones.  Not sure what the hell i was thinking (or lack there of)  I guess ive been waiting since the end of december to fill mine up and ive had no more then 5 people in it at one time.  Being it my first time starting my own theme league I sort of expected it to take time to fill, but i wasnt expecting 3 months.  Im hoping it just fills up so I can be done with this league and learn lessons from mistakes made.
3/5/2012 1:33 PM
You can always change it / disband it and make a new one.  Those five people probably won't be very upset considering it's been 3 months.
3/5/2012 2:54 PM
Posted by felonius on 3/5/2012 11:15:00 AM (view original):
"we'll see what wis thinks of all this"
Obviously he yelled for help and got back the basketball sim shaped tumbleweed
3/5/2012 4:52 PM
I loved that thread with the big "debate" with powerbob or whatever his name was.  I will also agree being the novice "noob" that I am, that even 100 million, clones or not is way too much.  Good laughs though.
3/6/2012 5:16 PM
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