Was just searching through the team ratings. Found a #1 ranked team(D-3) after the 9th game of the season. They were 10 ratings points ahead of the next closest team in both athleticism and defense. However,  here are the other ratings.

Spd: 39
Reb 25
Blk 18
LP 32
PE 27
BH 30
Pass 31
Sta 74

As you see, just about all of these ratings, with the exception of maybe stamina are well below the league averages. Am I the only one that views this as an issue that needs to be corrected?

I'm probably preaching to the choir with this. But was astonished a team with such low ratings after ath and def could have that much success.

you can't look at ratings in a vacuum. perhaps their guards have great spd, but bigs all have single digits; bigs have great reb, etc., etc., etc. also, its d3, so gimmicks like relying on ath/def are more likely to be successful. 

I assume this is mfnmyers.  He wins on ath/def soley.  Clansing in Phelan just tried it out and is having great success as well.  I know cbriese does a very similar approach as well and at D2(but not 100% ath/def)

It won't work in d2 unless you can do some scoring. It won't work in d3 if you have no bh, no pas or no scoring, unless you are fb/press.

I would like to fill one of Dickinson's conferences with good humans and see how Mr. Myers does this.  If anyone wants to organize this I am in.

Good teams will consistency beat this strategy, average and bad teams will get eaten up by it. It's an odd strategy that can help him win when he has his 6 SR classes or 10 upperclassmen, but there are far better ways to win consistently.

Which world does he plays Dickinson?

Most of them!

Hehe.

Posted by jtt8355 on 12/17/2015 3:46:00 PM (view original):
you can't look at ratings in a vacuum. perhaps their guards have great spd, but bigs all have single digits; bigs have great reb, etc., etc., etc. also, its d3, so gimmicks like relying on ath/def are more likely to be successful. 

I know, but for the most part, it's still pretty low. No elite ratings, except maybe one guard that has pretty decent BH/Pass skills.

you guys are crapping on him, but in Naismith(prop the toughest D3) he has 1 NC and multiple S16 and an E8. 2 NC in Rupp.  Made Allen his b**** for a bit.  2NC in Crum another hard world with 2 more appearances.  Wooden Smith and Knight are the only worlds with no NC he is in.  And he usually goes far there anyways 11 NC total.

And if you are doing an all ath/def lineup and not running fb/press then something is wrong with your logical thinking skills.

Could this be gaming the system and unrealistic yes?  Should it be fixed/changed probably?  Does it diminish what has been accomplished, not at all.  I don''t see other people trying to copy him and succeeding at it.

I know there is another route I've seen Carlbuzz do in Knight which he went pretty similar heavy ath/def but ran a zone and killed all the press teams that couldnt stop fouling him a few seasons ago.

I guess it just restates ath is clearly the single most important attribute in HD, you can clearly win without it(I do a solid job focusing  on spd/bh/pas first)

Cinci would have competed for like 5 NC the past decade if the HD engine was like real life.

I think he is solid in Naismith every season. So he did a good job. I don't like his teams but he has a strategy and it's working for him. Other coaches have theirs and it works too. Not sure if I seen a team win it without 50 ATH in DIII and 60 ATH in DII. So I think theonly is right, it's the most imp stat. CJWolf won in DII like this too.

You want to reduce the tactic reduce the too-high correlation between athleticism and defense so you can more easily have athletic bad defenders and unathletic but technically sound defenders.

Let me be the first to say that this is an absolutely ridiculous post. There are a handful of teams (probably like 10) across ALL worlds that have this build and you want to sit here and call out the 3 or 4 coaches that actually use it?? Seriously??? EVERYBODY that plays HD knows ATH and DEF are overvalued and like jsajsa, jtt and zorzii have stated, this only works at D3 and is beatable with proper game planning. As with any team, you choose to sacrifice important attributes for the prioritization of other attributes that you believe will give you the best chance to win. If anyone actually took the time to study mfnmyers teams they would realize that there is indeed a strategy behind his game planning and team composition and that this isn't just some OP "hack". I know it's easy to get caught up in the hype of questioning the whole ATH/DEF thing (which you absolutely have a right to) but just keep in mind that this is just one of MANY ways to win in HD. If you have any questions about how it works, why I value certain attributes over others, what attributes I value in certain positions, offense/defenses, etc. I encourage you to sitemail me and I'll do my best to explain it for you :)

P.S. TJ I'm pretty sure we're already seeing what that looks like in Phelan lol

Myers does it a little different clansing, I didn't mean any disrespect in my post, I really want to first hand play him and watch his teams develop.....also Myers is a really cool guy, these type of posts pop up every so often and when he does comment he is super respectful...the guy is  a class act...he's also beaten me a ton of times :)