I think a big part of HD is building your players through practice planning. The fun that comes with seeing how a guy progresses. How far a green will go, etc.

I'll hold off for a bit in posting the player in question. I am just curious to see thoughts on this.

Would you recruit a player if there was minimal room for growth (most ratings already red)?
Votes: 44
(Last vote received: 5/7/2017 4:08 PM)
5/3/2017 3:45 PM (edited)
Posted by dahsdebater on 5/3/2017 3:42:00 PM (view original):
I have no idea what the actual question we're answering yes or no to might be.
If a player had decent starting ratings, would you still recruit him even if there was no room for growth.
5/3/2017 3:44 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 5/3/2017 3:42:00 PM (view original):
I have no idea what the actual question we're answering yes or no to might be.
There isn't one. You're free to choose yes or no based on your mood.
5/3/2017 3:44 PM
Posted by l80r20 on 5/3/2017 3:44:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dahsdebater on 5/3/2017 3:42:00 PM (view original):
I have no idea what the actual question we're answering yes or no to might be.
There isn't one. You're free to choose yes or no based on your mood.
It is clearly there.
5/3/2017 3:47 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 5/3/2017 3:48:00 PM (view original):
Since you edited the original post.
It was actually always there, it was in the second paragraph. It had a question mark, as most questions do. I decided to edit it again for the people who don't realize you can ask questions in the middle of paragraphs.

Mainly directed at the idiot who posted after you.
5/3/2017 3:50 PM
Under my current understanding of the question the answer is obviously yes.

There are 2 things that can happen with your players. They can stay and play for you for 4 years, or they can leave early. If the guy with low potential starts as a good player, he's going to give you up to 4 good seasons. A guy who isn't great but has great potential is going to give you maybe a maximum of 2 good seasons. And you only get those if he doesn't wind up leaving early (although usually if he hasn't developed, he won't).

If you simplify a players ratings into a general quality grade, you can consider the comparison of a D player with A potential to a B player with almost no room for growth. Perhaps their development looks something like this:
Year Potential Guy No-Potential Guy
1 D B
2 C B
3 B B
4 A B


The guy who started as a solid player is better for 2 years and worse for only 1. If nobody leaves early. You're probably getting more out of him in his career. Although the potential guy might be able to contribute more to a Final Four quality team in his senior season, which is certainly a significant consideration.
5/3/2017 3:59 PM (edited)
I don't think it can be answered. I'm making that decision right now. I think we'll be good next season(lost in 2nd round) but I'm missing a key component(in my mind, anyway). I can't decide on the "ready to play" guy or the "better next year" guy. I'm sure a lot of people make that decision each season.
5/3/2017 3:57 PM
That is kind of the dilemma in a sense. So this player is on my D2 level squad, but I left it open for a broader interpretation. I know what I am getting from the guy coming in, but he won't progress at all. I personally like when you recruit someone with the unknown; so recruiting someone with reds and yellows leaves little to the imagination. Which some may not like.
5/3/2017 3:58 PM
I've debated this quite a bit during recruiting. Normally I prefer guys that have a lot of potential, but I voted yes because depending on the needs of your team a guy that has higher ratings and can play right away can be useful. If I have a hole at a certain position and need a freshman to start or a play a lot of minutes in a key role, then I'll lean towards a guy with higher ratings and less growth potential. But I try to plan my rotations a couple seasons in advance so I can go after high potential guys and let them develop.
5/3/2017 3:58 PM
Would I recruit a guy who was red but 70s across the board for my D3 team? Of course.
5/3/2017 4:08 PM
This is basically the same question as - would you recruit a guy with 1 WE.
5/3/2017 4:09 PM
Posted by Benis on 5/3/2017 4:09:00 PM (view original):
This is basically the same question as - would you recruit a guy with 1 WE.
I suppose that is very true. Though, the player in question doesn't have all reds.

ATH, REB, SB, PER, BH, PAS, DUR and FT are all red.
SPD and LP are yellow. (might as well be red)
DEF and STA are blue.
5/3/2017 4:14 PM
okay, the original post now contains a question, "Would you recruit a player if there was minimal room for growth (most ratings already red)?" My answer is, It depends. I don't see that in the poll.
5/3/2017 4:20 PM
Well, what use is a poll if we don't have YOUR input?
5/3/2017 4:24 PM
Posted by beachhouse on 5/3/2017 4:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 5/3/2017 4:09:00 PM (view original):
This is basically the same question as - would you recruit a guy with 1 WE.
I suppose that is very true. Though, the player in question doesn't have all reds.

ATH, REB, SB, PER, BH, PAS, DUR and FT are all red.
SPD and LP are yellow. (might as well be red)
DEF and STA are blue.
Post some numbers of the ratings and what division its for.
5/3/2017 4:28 PM
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