There was a recent attempt to create a progressive league that would allow a team to keep the feel of their actual franchise. It was an interesting idea and I wanted to chance to try and follow through with it. I have made a number of changes (year of start, number of franchise players, ability to drop franchise players in order to pick up a new rookie, etc.)

One team per owner. I will take the last franchise available.

Available Franchises:
A's
Orioles

3/25/2020 8:59 PM (edited)

No DH,WW, below average AAA, Stadium franchise used in year of play. No expansion, just more players to fill the rosters.

RULES FOR TERRITORIAL PROGRESSIVE

LEGACY PLAYER ``Any player who played for your franchise and retired at least one year prior to the one we are playing and has been retired for at least one year. Pick one when signing up. He stays your legacy player through good and bad. His seasons are played in order until he leaves the franchise (skipping years w/o stats so you always have an active legacy player; ex: Ted Williams would be 18 consecutive seasons, moving from 1942 to 1946 and from 1951-1953). Then you pick another. (Franchise names and seasons must match those in baseball reference, partial seasons must only be for your franchise not combined)

TERRITORIAL PLAYERS PICK ONE HITTER AND ONE PITCHER and ONE WILDCARD PLAYER FROM YOUR 1950 ROSTER WHEN SIGNING UP.. They will stay with you until they leave your team or are released by you in order to pick up a new WIS rookie. YOU MAY NOT MOVE A PLAYER FROM PITCHER OR HITTER TO WILD CARD OR VICE VERSA) As we are playing WIS a players rookie season is their first WIS eligible season regardless of where or when they actually had their first appearance.

REST OF ROSTER; YEAR - 1 - 21 PLAYERS WILL BE DRAFTER IN A SNAKE STYLE DRAFT, POSITIONS DETERMINED BY combined value of 4 chosen players in year one and reverse order of standings in year 2 and beyond for those finishing 1-12 with a weighted random determination for the top four picks.

Draft Protocols.

While drafts are Off The Clock owners should site mail the next 2 owners after making a selection. Owners should not be skipped while a draft is off the clock.

When drafts are On The Clock owners should not draft before their scheduled time unless there are no missed picks. A round should not be started before the first scheduled time if any previous round has any missed picks. This provision is designed to allow owners with skipped picks to have an opportunity between rounds to make up their missed picks

Trading of Draft Picks. Trading of draft picks is not allowed for the inaugural draft. For subsequent drafts picks may only be traded up to 1 season in advance-that is, during the 1950 SEASON picks may be traded only for 1951 For clarification, as soon as the 1950 season starts, in season trades may include 1951 draft picks.

The Commissioner will set up a keeper thread in the league private forum after the 120 games mark of each season. Keeper lists will be due by the end of each regular season; any owner that fails to do so runs the risk of losing his team. Teams may keep up to 25 players each season plus injured reserve (IR). Each owner is responsible for keeping track of his IR players and making sure each season's keeper list is correct. Failure to list a player as a keeper (including a player returning from IR) means that player will be added to the next available player list, and you risk losing the player. At the end of the regular season, all keeper lists are final, any subsequent roster corrections must be posted directly to the keeper thread in the league forum and site mailed to the Commissioner.

AVAILABLE PLAYERS

Each season the commissioner will post a list of available players for the upcoming draft. This list will be compiled from the list of all WIS-eligible players in the given season, subtracting out all players listed as keepers. The available player list will be published very shortly after all keeper lists have been posted. Since the draft will not start until after the conclusion of the regular season, owners will be given at least 3 days in which to verify that the available player list is correct.

The available players list is considered final once the draft starts – even if it contains mistakes. IT IS EACH OWNER’S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT NONE OF HIS KEEPERS ARE LISTED AS AVAILABLE. In the event that a mistake is made by the commissioner, and a keeper is listed on the available players list, THAT PLAYER WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE DRAFTED . Obviously, owners should help each other police the list – if you see someone listed as an available who looks too good to be true, it is likely that a mistake has been made; please point it out. However, if someone slips through the cracks and is drafted, the new owner will get to keep the player and the original owner will lose him.

Similarly, if a player who should be eligible for the draft is not listed on the available list, he may not be drafted. Such a player will be added to the available list for the following season (if still active).

AS A PRECAUTION AGAINST TANKING there will be a random lottery for the first 4 positions in the first round only, with the team with the worst record having 4 chances for the #1 pick, the team with the second worst record having 3 chances for the #1 pick, the team with the third worst record having 2 chances for the #1 pick and the team with the 4th worst record having 1 chance for the #1 pick. If a team fails to meet the 50 win requirement by game 150, they will automatically draft no higher than 3rd, regardless of the results of the lottery.

Subsequent seasons: player drafts will be held prior to each season. Tiebreakers will be divisional records, runs scored in THE LEAGUE, then total regular season run differential. A lottery will be held each season for the 4 lowest win-loss teams. pick.All drafts will be snake style.

Upon conclusion of the annual player draft, I will announce when a 24 hour add/drop phase will begin. You must first drop a player before adding any un-drafted rookies, free agents or cut players from the master list. You are not allowed to drop any legacy or territorial players. You will be limited to 3 add/drops during this phase. Choose wisely...

Disputes: In the event of a dispute where there is no operative rule or guideline, or if their interpretation is unclear, the commissioner will make a ruling. If three or more owners object to the ruling, the commissioner’s view does not stand and the issue is brought to all the owners through a vote which will be notified to all owners through a sitemail.

• Rule Changes: These can be discussed at any time after season one. The first owner to want a rule change should start a thread and we’ll use that going forward to discuss any changes. However, in order to protect owners from having to vote constantly or on frivolous issues, a proposal to make, modify or eliminate a rule must be seconded by three or more owners in addition to the proposing owner before it can be voted on.

• Voting: Each owner gets one vote. TEN OUT OF 16 OWNERS MUST VOTE FOR THE PROPOSAL.The commissioner will vote last and does set the time deadline within which the voting must take place.

As a courtesy to the league, if you are not returning for the following season please notify as soon as possible. That way we can find a replacement to not hold up the proceedings...

3/20/2020 9:23 PM (edited)
3dayrotation: TBD
Pitcher:
Hitter:
Wild Card:
Legacy:

dspahlinger: Dodgers
Legacy Player Babe Herman 1926-1931 (6 seasons)
Territorial Hitter Duke Snider OF
Territorial Pitcher Don Newcombe
Wild Card Player Roy Campanella C

crazyamos: yankees
Legacy Player Babe Ruth 1920-1934 (15 years)
Hitter Phil Rizzutto
Pitcher Whitey Ford
Wild Card Player Yogi Berra

eman7400: Braves
Legacy John Clarkson 1888-1892 5 seasons
Hitter Sid Gordon
Pitcher Warren Spahn
Wild Card Bob Elliott

danidon: Giants
Hitter - Eddie Stanky
Pitcher - P Sal Maglie
Wild Card - P Larry Jansen
Legacy - Tim Keefe (1885-1891, 7 seasons)


wifflking: Tigers
Legacy - Ty Cobb (1905-1926, 22 seasons)
Hitter - Vic Wertz
Pitcher - Hal Newhauser
Wild Card - Johnny Lipon

strubrosII: Indians
Legacy: Addie Joss (1902-1910, 9 seasons)
Hitter: Al Rosen
Pitcher: Mike Garcia
WC: Larry Doby

stroh23: Reds
Legacy : P Noodles Hahn (7 seasons)
Hitter: Ted Kluszewski
Pitcher: Ken Raffensberger
Wildcard P Ewell Blackwell

fatguyrd: Phillies
Legacy - Pete Alexander (1911-1917, 7 seasons)
Pitcher- Robin Roberts
Hittiter-Richie Ashburn
Wild Card-Curt Simmons


fabulous: Cardinals
Legacy - Rogers Hornsby (1915-1926, 1933, 13 seasons)
Hitter - Stan Musial
Pitcher - Harry Brecheen
Wildcard - Red Schoendienst

jmarino2: Red Sox
Hitter - Ted Wiiliams
Pitcher - Mel Parnell
Wild Card - Vern Stephens
Legacy - Jimmy Foxx (1936-42, 7 seasons)


luvyablue: Cubs
Hitter: Hank Sauer
Pitcher: Bob Rush
Wild Card: Andy Pafko
Legacy: Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown (1904-1912, 9 seasons)


brian1648: TBA

tribe_fan_09: Twins
Legacy. P Walter Johnson 1907-1927, 21 seasons
Hitter. Eddie Yost
Pitcher Connie Marrero
Wild Card 1B Mickey Vernon

bluesguy: Pirates
Hitter: OF Ralph Kiner
Pitcher: P Murry Dickson
Wild Card: P Cliff Chambers
Legacy: Honus Wagner 1900 - 1917 (18 seasons)

landry19: White Sox
Hitter - Nellie Fox
Pitcher - Billy Pierce
Wild Card - Chico Carrasquel
Legacy - Ed Walsh (1904 - 1915, 12 seasons)
3/27/2020 6:59 AM (edited)
Ill try STL Cardinals players TBD
3/10/2020 7:18 PM
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Posted by crazyamos on 3/10/2020 8:42:00 PM (view original):
Do territorial and wild card players also skip years on IR, as in your Ted Williams example?

Unlike the last league, you can drop a territorial or wild card player, not wait for their years with the franchise to end?
The three current players do not skip years (as they are the same year we are playing). You can ir them or release them for a rookie (wis)

You can release the territorial players too pick up a rookie (wis) in your organization. You may not switch their designation (pitche, hitter or wild card).
3/10/2020 8:54 PM
So just to clarify the rules first year 1940 the draft for 21 players is random and all other drafts is based on salary of top 4 and standings is that correct?
3/10/2020 10:03 PM
NEW YORK YANKEES

Territorial Hitter: Joe DiMaggio
Territorial Pitcher: Spud Chandler
Wild Card: Tiny Bonham, P

Legacy: Babe Ruth (1920-2924)
3/10/2020 10:05 PM
Posted by eman7400 on 3/10/2020 10:03:00 PM (view original):
So just to clarify the rules first year 1940 the draft for 21 players is random and all other drafts is based on salary of top 4 and standings is that correct?
no. first year based on value of players rostered pre-draft. this should offer some initial balance for teams with lesser quality choices in 1940 and legacy players.

following rounds will be based on standings (and you keep as many players from your roster as you want for the next year.)
3/10/2020 10:48 PM
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Posted by Landry19 on 3/11/2020 2:23:00 PM (view original):
Hopefully this will be a 12 team league.......... for 2 reasons.

1) It will be very hard to get people to take the last 4 teams (talentwise).
2) It will provide a deeper draft pool. Some teams only have 20 WIS players for 1940.
we are a number of signups away from worrying about that...
3/12/2020 4:42 AM
I'll try it again but this time I'll go with the Chicago Cubs.

Bill Nicholson 1940-1948 Territorial Hitter

Stan Hack 1940-1947 Territorial Wild Card

Claude Passeau 1940-1946 Territorial Pitcher

Legacy Player is: Hack Wilson 1926-1931
3/12/2020 4:27 PM (edited)
Posted by Southpaw85 on 3/11/2020 4:20:00 AM (view original):
Cleveland Indians

Legacy Addie Joss
hitter Al Rosen
Pitcher Early Wynn
Wildcard Bob Feller
I don't think this can be right. Rosen isn't a rookie until 1950 and Wynn doesn't go to the Indians until 1949.
3/12/2020 4:25 PM
Right - I don't think he realizes we switched to 1940. I've been checking some of the weaker teams and it's much harder to put together a decent team than it was with the 1950's version. Good Legacies of course, but not much for the territorial guys. I was planning on taking a 2nd team like I did for 1950, but I'm not sure I will this time.
3/12/2020 4:42 PM
1940, I'm out. The Indians have 20 players total with bob feller the only good one. I was excited for 1950 start.
3/12/2020 6:25 PM (edited)
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