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I’m posting a statement prepared by fluff_nasty and I approve everything that is in the statement.

This is in reference to https://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?topicID=522482

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My name is Isaac, aka fluff_nasty.

After the second round game of the Phelan D2 Tournament, I received an email from WIS-Comish informing me that I was banned.

“We’ve been alerted to a game between the accounts scheyerguy and fluff_nasty where a game was intentionally thrown by scheyerguy. After investigation, we’ve determined that these accounts are operated by the same person. This is an extremely serious violation of our Fair Play Guidelines (https://www.whatifsports.com/account/FairPlayGuidelines/). As a result of this violation, both accounts have been closed permanently.”

First of all, these accounts are not operated by the same person.

Isaac operates GCU while Kolby, my brother-in-law (dun dun dunnnnn) operates FGCU and Creighton.

We have sent WIS Comish photos of our IDs, credit cards, faces, and computers to confirm this.

We do not live in the same household, however we are frequently at each other’s household’s.

The next thing in question is the “thrown game”.

Was the game thrown? Yes it was. Kolby decided to throw the game without my knowledge because I had just gone through the worst two days of my life. (trust me, you don’t want to know) He wanted to throw me a bone and make sure that he didn’t steal a win from me to make things worse. Had he told me he was doing this I would have told him not to. We have a fun rivalry (Chiefs fan vs Broncos fan) and I would have loved to beat him fair and square. However, this was not the case and I didn’t realize he threw the game until I saw the boxscore.

Apparently at this point, Kolby got a little “troll-y” on the forums. He had no idea that throwing a game could get him banned, and honestly neither did I. So I don’t really know what all he was going on about but he was just a little upset and surprised that he lost his team and went on a bit of a rant trying to fight what had happened.

At this point I believe fluff_nasty should be fully reinstated. Scheyerguy should be punished for throwing a game but probably not banned.

I would love the chance to be able to gameplan for my championship game tonight.

Additionally, I believe we need to make the Fairplay Guidelines more accessible. At the very least they should be pinned atop the HD Forum.

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8/28/2020 7:34 AM
My phone messed his formatting up but that’s the best I can do at the moment. I’ll try and fix it later.
8/28/2020 7:36 AM
So what you’re saying is you should also be banned on this account.

Seble, make it so.
8/28/2020 7:49 AM
You lied about knowing him in the first thread and if neither of you knew that throwing a game was against a fairplay guideline (nobody with half a brain needs a rulebook to know this) then all 3 accounts shouldn’t be around.
8/28/2020 8:02 AM
Posted by beachhouse on 8/28/2020 7:49:00 AM (view original):
So what you’re saying is you should also be banned on this account.

Seble, make it so.
If what he said above is true, I think fluff should be reinstated. I think because much of the above is difficult to prove (I get the IDs but the brother in law could just be pretending he has an account and this could still be an elaborate ruse) perhaps CS can enforce an informal probation where scheyerguy, kolby, and fluff cannot play in the same world for a few seasons.

I do agree the fair play guidelines should be more accessible though it's really the responsibility of the user to read them no matter where they're "pinned". Also this just seems like a no-brainer - this isn't a private Madden game between two friends where it's ok to throw the game. This is a game where there are hundreds of other players and throwing a game has a real impact on those players and their ability game plan and prepare for an opponent.
8/28/2020 8:13 AM
Posted by sol_phenom3 on 8/28/2020 8:13:00 AM (view original):
Posted by beachhouse on 8/28/2020 7:49:00 AM (view original):
So what you’re saying is you should also be banned on this account.

Seble, make it so.
If what he said above is true, I think fluff should be reinstated. I think because much of the above is difficult to prove (I get the IDs but the brother in law could just be pretending he has an account and this could still be an elaborate ruse) perhaps CS can enforce an informal probation where scheyerguy, kolby, and fluff cannot play in the same world for a few seasons.

I do agree the fair play guidelines should be more accessible though it's really the responsibility of the user to read them no matter where they're "pinned". Also this just seems like a no-brainer - this isn't a private Madden game between two friends where it's ok to throw the game. This is a game where there are hundreds of other players and throwing a game has a real impact on those players and their ability game plan and prepare for an opponent.
That last paragraph is beautiful
8/28/2020 8:22 AM
Posted by therealjerk on 8/28/2020 8:02:00 AM (view original):
You lied about knowing him in the first thread and if neither of you knew that throwing a game was against a fairplay guideline (nobody with half a brain needs a rulebook to know this) then all 3 accounts shouldn’t be around.
I was trolling, have you ever met a troll who told the truth? Also, at what point in the account creation process are the Fairplay guidelines mentioned or brought up? I must have missed that.

I just hope fluff gets his account back for the game tonight cause he did nothing wrong. If they have to ban both my accounts then whatever. I’ll feel bad if my actions got Isaac banned from his dynasty.

I would also like to point out that if gcu would have thrown the game then I bet nobody would be crying about it.

Alright I have to go to work now, I hope they fix this for him.
8/28/2020 8:27 AM
Others on here might fall or be sympathetic to your bullshit but don't put me in that camp, also I don’t see people crying just calling out cheating when they see it.
8/28/2020 8:41 AM
Yeah, reinstate him. I don't want an asterisk on my title.
8/28/2020 8:42 AM
Posted by Benis on 8/28/2020 8:42:00 AM (view original):
Yeah, reinstate him. I don't want an asterisk on my title.
8/28/2020 8:43 AM
"Benis only won cuz it was sim controlled"

I've got my asterisk button sitting next to title #8 ready to go
8/28/2020 8:51 AM
Posted by topdogggbm on 8/28/2020 8:51:00 AM (view original):
"Benis only won cuz it was sim controlled"

I've got my asterisk button sitting next to title #8 ready to go
or “Benis only won because he got the other coach banned”
8/28/2020 9:01 AM
Fluff should probs be reinstated
8/28/2020 9:12 AM
Posted by kolby2025 on 8/28/2020 8:27:00 AM (view original):
Posted by therealjerk on 8/28/2020 8:02:00 AM (view original):
You lied about knowing him in the first thread and if neither of you knew that throwing a game was against a fairplay guideline (nobody with half a brain needs a rulebook to know this) then all 3 accounts shouldn’t be around.
I was trolling, have you ever met a troll who told the truth? Also, at what point in the account creation process are the Fairplay guidelines mentioned or brought up? I must have missed that.

I just hope fluff gets his account back for the game tonight cause he did nothing wrong. If they have to ban both my accounts then whatever. I’ll feel bad if my actions got Isaac banned from his dynasty.

I would also like to point out that if gcu would have thrown the game then I bet nobody would be crying about it.

Alright I have to go to work now, I hope they fix this for him.
Jeez, I just read Gill's comment in the other thread and was completely agreeing with what he said. I was nodding my head thinking "I wouldn't have known. ****, I didn't know.". I was introduced to the game by a friend and I told him I'd throw a CT Championship to let him make the NT. He had to tell me that's not how things work in this game. That's when I started to learn about the forums being more of a community than a simple forum and what you do in this game affects EVERYONE. I was about to comment how it was unfair that you were accused at 3pm and banned within the hour without being allowed to defend yourself.

But then you come out and defend holes in your story as just trolling... dude, really? In a thread accusing you of cheating, where your account was permanently banned and all the money that you put into it was lost, you thought that's the best time to have a laugh and troll a little? Tell us - how do we know you're not trolling now? Or that you weren't trolling about having seasons purchased on your account? You care enough about all of this to respond and make separate threads but not enough to at least explain to the community your true side of the story.

I'm a firm believer of 'never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity'. I figured you were like I was years back - just ignorant to the fair play guidelines and wouldn't have violated the rules if you had known. I wanted to defend your perspective and support your return. Now, I'm not too sure.
8/28/2020 9:25 AM
I wouldn’t believe anything we’re being told.

Don’t feed the trolls.

and

’You’ve gotta pay the troll toll, to get in to...’
8/28/2020 9:36 AM
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