HD Firing Expectations - Coming November/December Topic

So with the D1 jobs process opening up, we would like to create some accountability for the top jobs and baseline prestige schools to ensure these jobs aren’t just camped. The goal of this change is to start with what might seem like easy requirements, but we used average data of the tiers to generate these initial requirements, so while these should be attainable there will inevitably be folks that don’t hit the objective. If this doesn’t create the desired result we then can ramp the requirements up or down based on how it goes. Because there is no smooth way to integrate this, teams will have the full 4 seasons from today to attain these goals and the patch will go live which may result in some firings in either the November or December patch.

Teams in 2 games a day worlds will get a little bit of a longer leash since the code cannot be versioned between worlds which means the coaches in these worlds will have to ensure the goals are hit in their last 4 seasons, until the November/December timeline to attain the goal as well.

The requirements will be postseason tournament based, RPI & rank will have no impact on this, (meaning yes you could be at Syracuse be ranked #1 and lose in the 2nd round, 4 straight years and get fired. At the end of the day the ranking systems can be manipulated so we would rather focus on postseason performance and this will create some additional pressure in the tournament.

The tiers are based on baseline prestige and even in some of the dire rebuild projects are attainable.We my eventually add some smarter logic and adjust some school's baseline prestige, but I wanted these to be as black and white as possible so there is no confusion or debate, and so we can continue to gather more information.

Requirements:

Highest Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Sweet Sixteen once every four seasons.

Arizona
UCLA
UConn
Duke
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan State
UNC
Syracuse
Maryland

Next Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Round of 32 once every four seasons.

NC State
Oklahoma
Stanford
Indiana
Florida
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Cincinnati
Boston College
Wake Forest
Wisconsin
Villanova
Virginia
Arkansas
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Ohio State University

Last Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the National Tournament once every four seasons

Oregon
Oregon State
Oklahoma State
Notre Dame
UNLV
Marquette
Memphis
Miami
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri
Providence
Seton Hall
South Carolina
University of Southern California (USC)
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Texas
Temple
St. John’s
St. Joseph’s
Arizona State University
Auburn
Alabama
Dayton
Depaul
Cal
Clemson
Gonzaga
Georgia
Florida State
Iowa
Iowa State
LSU
Utah
Washington
Washington State
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Xavier

5/26/2021 3:03 PM
Holy moly. Big changes coming down the pipeline.

So there's no grace period from when you first take over a job? Like I just inherited an Oklahoma team with 8 walk-ons. Making the 2nd round within 4 seasons is definitely doable but some bad recruiting luck could push the rebuild back a few seasons.

Otherwise, I think this is great. There should be a lot more movement with the jobs and only the best coaches should stick at the top jobs.
5/26/2021 4:39 PM (edited)
Posted by adlorenz on 5/26/2021 3:03:00 PM (view original):
So with the D1 jobs process opening up, we would like to create some accountability for the top jobs and baseline prestige schools to ensure these jobs aren’t just camped. The goal of this change is to start with what might seem like easy requirements, but we used average data of the tiers to generate these initial requirements, so while these should be attainable there will inevitably be folks that don’t hit the objective. If this doesn’t create the desired result we then can ramp the requirements up or down based on how it goes. Because there is no smooth way to integrate this, teams will have the full 4 seasons from today to attain these goals and the patch will go live which may result in some firings in either the November or December patch.

Teams in 2 games a day worlds will get a little bit of a longer leash since the code cannot be versioned between worlds which means the coaches in these worlds will have to ensure the goals are hit in their last 4 seasons, until the November/December timeline to attain the goal as well.

The requirements will be postseason tournament based, RPI & rank will have no impact on this, (meaning yes you could be at Syracuse be ranked #1 and lose in the 2nd round, 4 straight years and get fired. At the end of the day the ranking systems can be manipulated so we would rather focus on postseason performance and this will create some additional pressure in the tournament.

The tiers are based on baseline prestige and even in some of the dire rebuild projects are attainable.We my eventually add some smarter logic and adjust some school's baseline prestige, but I wanted these to be as black and white as possible so there is no confusion or debate, and so we can continue to gather more information.

Requirements:

Highest Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Sweet Sixteen once every four seasons.

Arizona
UCLA
UConn
Duke
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan State
UNC
Syracuse
Maryland

Next Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Round of 32 once every four seasons.

NC State
Oklahoma
Stanford
Indiana
Florida
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Cincinnati
Boston College
Wake Forest
Wisconsin
Villanova
Virginia
Arkansas
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Ohio State University

Last Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the National Tournament once every four seasons

Oregon
Oregon State
Oklahoma State
Notre Dame
UNLV
Marquette
Memphis
Miami
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri
Providence
Seton Hall
South Carolina
University of Southern California (USC)
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Texas
Temple
St. John’s
St. Joseph’s
Arizona State University
Auburn
Alabama
Dayton
Depaul
Cal
Clemson
Gonzaga
Georgia
Florida State
Iowa
Iowa State
LSU
Utah
Washington
Washington State
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Xavier

Looks great, I love it:

1) do you get 4 free years, or so, before any of this kicks in? so 8 years to get a S16 at Arizona?
2) Do fired coaches get credits to help them get going at their new job?
3) I'm guessing "Nebraska" is missing from last tier? (SOLVED: All of the B- baseline jobs are missing)
4) Is it every 4 year period, or just an average of 4 years. If a coach wins 3 titles in 10 years and then misses the S16 4 years in a row they would be fired at Illinois, which seems tough in the current EE and Dice Roll environment. Goodtymes, for example, would have been fired in both Season 116 and 125 which seems crazy given his school has never dropped below A prestige, and he has made 6 title games and 11 final fours in 41 seasons, a pretty great feat. It's hard to imagine anyone in real life coming close to firing a coach with a 25% final four rate in his career just because of a single rough patch.
10.1.1
5/26/2021 6:24 PM (edited)
1. Excellent giving people notice some time in advance - thank you!!

2. one can quibble with the exact criteria - as folks would with ANY criteria - but the concept is really good. What is success without the possibility of failure!
5/26/2021 5:17 PM
Posted by cubcub113 on 5/26/2021 5:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by adlorenz on 5/26/2021 3:03:00 PM (view original):
So with the D1 jobs process opening up, we would like to create some accountability for the top jobs and baseline prestige schools to ensure these jobs aren’t just camped. The goal of this change is to start with what might seem like easy requirements, but we used average data of the tiers to generate these initial requirements, so while these should be attainable there will inevitably be folks that don’t hit the objective. If this doesn’t create the desired result we then can ramp the requirements up or down based on how it goes. Because there is no smooth way to integrate this, teams will have the full 4 seasons from today to attain these goals and the patch will go live which may result in some firings in either the November or December patch.

Teams in 2 games a day worlds will get a little bit of a longer leash since the code cannot be versioned between worlds which means the coaches in these worlds will have to ensure the goals are hit in their last 4 seasons, until the November/December timeline to attain the goal as well.

The requirements will be postseason tournament based, RPI & rank will have no impact on this, (meaning yes you could be at Syracuse be ranked #1 and lose in the 2nd round, 4 straight years and get fired. At the end of the day the ranking systems can be manipulated so we would rather focus on postseason performance and this will create some additional pressure in the tournament.

The tiers are based on baseline prestige and even in some of the dire rebuild projects are attainable.We my eventually add some smarter logic and adjust some school's baseline prestige, but I wanted these to be as black and white as possible so there is no confusion or debate, and so we can continue to gather more information.

Requirements:

Highest Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Sweet Sixteen once every four seasons.

Arizona
UCLA
UConn
Duke
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan State
UNC
Syracuse
Maryland

Next Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Round of 32 once every four seasons.

NC State
Oklahoma
Stanford
Indiana
Florida
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Cincinnati
Boston College
Wake Forest
Wisconsin
Villanova
Virginia
Arkansas
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Ohio State University

Last Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the National Tournament once every four seasons

Oregon
Oregon State
Oklahoma State
Notre Dame
UNLV
Marquette
Memphis
Miami
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri
Providence
Seton Hall
South Carolina
University of Southern California (USC)
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Texas
Temple
St. John’s
St. Joseph’s
Arizona State University
Auburn
Alabama
Dayton
Depaul
Cal
Clemson
Gonzaga
Georgia
Florida State
Iowa
Iowa State
LSU
Utah
Washington
Washington State
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Xavier

Looks great, I love it:

1) do you get 4 free years, or so, before any of this kicks in? so 8 years to get a S16 at Arizona?
2) Do fired coaches get credits to help them get going at their new job?
3) I'm guessing "Nebraska" is missing from last tier?
4) Is it every 4 year period, or just an average of 4 years. If a coach wins 3 titles in 10 years and then misses the S16 4 years in a row they would be fired at Illinois, which seems tough in the current EE and Dice Roll environment. Goodtymes, for example, would have been fired in both Season 116 and 125 which seems crazy given his school has never dropped below A prestige, and he has made 6 title games and 11 final fours in 41 seasons, a pretty great feat. It's hard to imagine anyone in real life coming close to firing a coach with a 25% final four rate in his career just because of a single rough patch.
10.1.1
#4 is my thoughts exactly
5/26/2021 5:34 PM
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Posted by cubcub113 on 5/26/2021 6:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by adlorenz on 5/26/2021 3:03:00 PM (view original):
So with the D1 jobs process opening up, we would like to create some accountability for the top jobs and baseline prestige schools to ensure these jobs aren’t just camped. The goal of this change is to start with what might seem like easy requirements, but we used average data of the tiers to generate these initial requirements, so while these should be attainable there will inevitably be folks that don’t hit the objective. If this doesn’t create the desired result we then can ramp the requirements up or down based on how it goes. Because there is no smooth way to integrate this, teams will have the full 4 seasons from today to attain these goals and the patch will go live which may result in some firings in either the November or December patch.

Teams in 2 games a day worlds will get a little bit of a longer leash since the code cannot be versioned between worlds which means the coaches in these worlds will have to ensure the goals are hit in their last 4 seasons, until the November/December timeline to attain the goal as well.

The requirements will be postseason tournament based, RPI & rank will have no impact on this, (meaning yes you could be at Syracuse be ranked #1 and lose in the 2nd round, 4 straight years and get fired. At the end of the day the ranking systems can be manipulated so we would rather focus on postseason performance and this will create some additional pressure in the tournament.

The tiers are based on baseline prestige and even in some of the dire rebuild projects are attainable.We my eventually add some smarter logic and adjust some school's baseline prestige, but I wanted these to be as black and white as possible so there is no confusion or debate, and so we can continue to gather more information.

Requirements:

Highest Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Sweet Sixteen once every four seasons.

Arizona
UCLA
UConn
Duke
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan State
UNC
Syracuse
Maryland

Next Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Round of 32 once every four seasons.

NC State
Oklahoma
Stanford
Indiana
Florida
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Cincinnati
Boston College
Wake Forest
Wisconsin
Villanova
Virginia
Arkansas
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Ohio State University

Last Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the National Tournament once every four seasons

Oregon
Oregon State
Oklahoma State
Notre Dame
UNLV
Marquette
Memphis
Miami
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri
Providence
Seton Hall
South Carolina
University of Southern California (USC)
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Texas
Temple
St. John’s
St. Joseph’s
Arizona State University
Auburn
Alabama
Dayton
Depaul
Cal
Clemson
Gonzaga
Georgia
Florida State
Iowa
Iowa State
LSU
Utah
Washington
Washington State
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Xavier

Looks great, I love it:

1) do you get 4 free years, or so, before any of this kicks in? so 8 years to get a S16 at Arizona?
2) Do fired coaches get credits to help them get going at their new job?
3) I'm guessing "Nebraska" is missing from last tier? (SOLVED: All of the B- baseline jobs are missing)
4) Is it every 4 year period, or just an average of 4 years. If a coach wins 3 titles in 10 years and then misses the S16 4 years in a row they would be fired at Illinois, which seems tough in the current EE and Dice Roll environment. Goodtymes, for example, would have been fired in both Season 116 and 125 which seems crazy given his school has never dropped below A prestige, and he has made 6 title games and 11 final fours in 41 seasons, a pretty great feat. It's hard to imagine anyone in real life coming close to firing a coach with a 25% final four rate in his career just because of a single rough patch.
10.1.1
Also #4.

There ought to be some sort of "success credit." Winning the title, for example, should buy you a longer leash; at a top tier school, winning the title and making the Sweet Sixteen should not be viewed as equal with regards to meeting the requirement.
5/26/2021 7:06 PM
Posted by shoe3 on 5/26/2021 6:23:00 PM (view original):
So... you only get to keep a job you might have waited years for if you are good (and lucky) enough to play for a significant discount.

It’s really kind of incredible the extent to which you are asking people to spend their money somewhere else. Opening jobs up was great, but this is an enormous unforced error.
yeah.... I hope there are grace periods and 4 year windows aren't independant

that being said, it will give more coaches a shot at the higher baseline jobs, since they'll be less wanted, just like in real life (expectations at Indiana is brutal IRL).

with great privilege (A+ baseline) comes great responsibility (having to have some success).
5/26/2021 7:10 PM
Posted by pallas on 5/26/2021 7:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cubcub113 on 5/26/2021 6:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by adlorenz on 5/26/2021 3:03:00 PM (view original):
So with the D1 jobs process opening up, we would like to create some accountability for the top jobs and baseline prestige schools to ensure these jobs aren’t just camped. The goal of this change is to start with what might seem like easy requirements, but we used average data of the tiers to generate these initial requirements, so while these should be attainable there will inevitably be folks that don’t hit the objective. If this doesn’t create the desired result we then can ramp the requirements up or down based on how it goes. Because there is no smooth way to integrate this, teams will have the full 4 seasons from today to attain these goals and the patch will go live which may result in some firings in either the November or December patch.

Teams in 2 games a day worlds will get a little bit of a longer leash since the code cannot be versioned between worlds which means the coaches in these worlds will have to ensure the goals are hit in their last 4 seasons, until the November/December timeline to attain the goal as well.

The requirements will be postseason tournament based, RPI & rank will have no impact on this, (meaning yes you could be at Syracuse be ranked #1 and lose in the 2nd round, 4 straight years and get fired. At the end of the day the ranking systems can be manipulated so we would rather focus on postseason performance and this will create some additional pressure in the tournament.

The tiers are based on baseline prestige and even in some of the dire rebuild projects are attainable.We my eventually add some smarter logic and adjust some school's baseline prestige, but I wanted these to be as black and white as possible so there is no confusion or debate, and so we can continue to gather more information.

Requirements:

Highest Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Sweet Sixteen once every four seasons.

Arizona
UCLA
UConn
Duke
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan State
UNC
Syracuse
Maryland

Next Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Round of 32 once every four seasons.

NC State
Oklahoma
Stanford
Indiana
Florida
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Cincinnati
Boston College
Wake Forest
Wisconsin
Villanova
Virginia
Arkansas
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Ohio State University

Last Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the National Tournament once every four seasons

Oregon
Oregon State
Oklahoma State
Notre Dame
UNLV
Marquette
Memphis
Miami
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri
Providence
Seton Hall
South Carolina
University of Southern California (USC)
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Texas
Temple
St. John’s
St. Joseph’s
Arizona State University
Auburn
Alabama
Dayton
Depaul
Cal
Clemson
Gonzaga
Georgia
Florida State
Iowa
Iowa State
LSU
Utah
Washington
Washington State
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Xavier

Looks great, I love it:

1) do you get 4 free years, or so, before any of this kicks in? so 8 years to get a S16 at Arizona?
2) Do fired coaches get credits to help them get going at their new job?
3) I'm guessing "Nebraska" is missing from last tier? (SOLVED: All of the B- baseline jobs are missing)
4) Is it every 4 year period, or just an average of 4 years. If a coach wins 3 titles in 10 years and then misses the S16 4 years in a row they would be fired at Illinois, which seems tough in the current EE and Dice Roll environment. Goodtymes, for example, would have been fired in both Season 116 and 125 which seems crazy given his school has never dropped below A prestige, and he has made 6 title games and 11 final fours in 41 seasons, a pretty great feat. It's hard to imagine anyone in real life coming close to firing a coach with a 25% final four rate in his career just because of a single rough patch.
10.1.1
Also #4.

There ought to be some sort of "success credit." Winning the title, for example, should buy you a longer leash; at a top tier school, winning the title and making the Sweet Sixteen should not be viewed as equal with regards to meeting the requirement.
What if each season you exceed the requirement for your tier adds another season to your window? Almost like contract extensions.

Win the title, you now have a 5-year window to make the Sweet Sixteen. Win the title again, you have a 6-year window to make the Sweet Sixteen. This way, the 4-year windows aren't completely independent, and exceeding expectations buys you time, like in real life.

5/26/2021 7:24 PM
IF I were asked about the criteria, I would agree with comments about lingering effects of high level success. Might be that Final Fours and titles should have a longer than four season protective effect.

I dont see Hawaii on the list - so they cant fire me there eh?!?
5/26/2021 7:27 PM
Posted by fd343ny on 5/26/2021 7:27:00 PM (view original):
IF I were asked about the criteria, I would agree with comments about lingering effects of high level success. Might be that Final Fours and titles should have a longer than four season protective effect.

I dont see Hawaii on the list - so they cant fire me there eh?!?
^^ Agree with fd and pallas about lingering effects of high level success. i would argue if you win a title at a place you should never be fired...

hawaii is b- baseline so I think you're safe
10.1.1
5/26/2021 7:32 PM
LOUISVILLE ???
5/26/2021 7:45 PM
thanks for posting in advance! i would perhaps suggest a note to the big 6 CCs or something to this thread.

i notice colorado is also missing, which is an awfully good program to have excluded. kinda sounds like these guys went off of average success or something per program, which is kinda interesting. feels weird that any BCS schools would be left out though (ok, hawaii!). i'm not sure it really makes sense to have a partial subset of a10 teams, or a team like utah, who absolutely makes sense on one hand (quality of location) but which makes not a ton of sense on the other (why utah but not BYU, very similar situations, same conf, same prestige, same state...)

IMO it was a smart move to look at historical success to get a measure of the level of success perhaps required, and to inform the decision making of HD staff, but not necessarily to use that as absolute criteria for making this list.

also as some folks have mentioned, its totally different to expect a S16 from an established program, another entirely to expect it from a coach who takes over a wreck of a program. there almost has to be some grace period? i also think that the 4 year thing is a bit sketchy in general - just a bit. the rules sound too formulaic. a coach with two 1-2 seeds in 4 years can fairly easily get upset in the 2nd round twice, or just as easily walk away with a title. i get the desire for transparency, and how that benefits from a very simple set of rules, but it feels like a little more is necessary. i think these are reasonable starting conditions but there should be more to it - a new coach gets 6 seasons maybe - maybe when you over achieve to some level you get some additional buffer - i don't know. the reality is coaches nobody thinks should get fired are going to get fired under this paradigm.

i don't think its a bad proposal and perhaps these rules are perfectly good to govern the majority of cases, perhaps even a great starting point - but i feel like at least a little bit to round it out would go a long way.
5/26/2021 8:04 PM (edited)
Posted by pallas on 5/26/2021 7:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by pallas on 5/26/2021 7:06:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cubcub113 on 5/26/2021 6:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by adlorenz on 5/26/2021 3:03:00 PM (view original):
So with the D1 jobs process opening up, we would like to create some accountability for the top jobs and baseline prestige schools to ensure these jobs aren’t just camped. The goal of this change is to start with what might seem like easy requirements, but we used average data of the tiers to generate these initial requirements, so while these should be attainable there will inevitably be folks that don’t hit the objective. If this doesn’t create the desired result we then can ramp the requirements up or down based on how it goes. Because there is no smooth way to integrate this, teams will have the full 4 seasons from today to attain these goals and the patch will go live which may result in some firings in either the November or December patch.

Teams in 2 games a day worlds will get a little bit of a longer leash since the code cannot be versioned between worlds which means the coaches in these worlds will have to ensure the goals are hit in their last 4 seasons, until the November/December timeline to attain the goal as well.

The requirements will be postseason tournament based, RPI & rank will have no impact on this, (meaning yes you could be at Syracuse be ranked #1 and lose in the 2nd round, 4 straight years and get fired. At the end of the day the ranking systems can be manipulated so we would rather focus on postseason performance and this will create some additional pressure in the tournament.

The tiers are based on baseline prestige and even in some of the dire rebuild projects are attainable.We my eventually add some smarter logic and adjust some school's baseline prestige, but I wanted these to be as black and white as possible so there is no confusion or debate, and so we can continue to gather more information.

Requirements:

Highest Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Sweet Sixteen once every four seasons.

Arizona
UCLA
UConn
Duke
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan State
UNC
Syracuse
Maryland

Next Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the Round of 32 once every four seasons.

NC State
Oklahoma
Stanford
Indiana
Florida
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
Cincinnati
Boston College
Wake Forest
Wisconsin
Villanova
Virginia
Arkansas
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
Purdue
Ohio State University

Last Tier: For the following teams, they will be expected to make the National Tournament once every four seasons

Oregon
Oregon State
Oklahoma State
Notre Dame
UNLV
Marquette
Memphis
Miami
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri
Providence
Seton Hall
South Carolina
University of Southern California (USC)
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Texas
Temple
St. John’s
St. Joseph’s
Arizona State University
Auburn
Alabama
Dayton
Depaul
Cal
Clemson
Gonzaga
Georgia
Florida State
Iowa
Iowa State
LSU
Utah
Washington
Washington State
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Xavier

Looks great, I love it:

1) do you get 4 free years, or so, before any of this kicks in? so 8 years to get a S16 at Arizona?
2) Do fired coaches get credits to help them get going at their new job?
3) I'm guessing "Nebraska" is missing from last tier? (SOLVED: All of the B- baseline jobs are missing)
4) Is it every 4 year period, or just an average of 4 years. If a coach wins 3 titles in 10 years and then misses the S16 4 years in a row they would be fired at Illinois, which seems tough in the current EE and Dice Roll environment. Goodtymes, for example, would have been fired in both Season 116 and 125 which seems crazy given his school has never dropped below A prestige, and he has made 6 title games and 11 final fours in 41 seasons, a pretty great feat. It's hard to imagine anyone in real life coming close to firing a coach with a 25% final four rate in his career just because of a single rough patch.
10.1.1
Also #4.

There ought to be some sort of "success credit." Winning the title, for example, should buy you a longer leash; at a top tier school, winning the title and making the Sweet Sixteen should not be viewed as equal with regards to meeting the requirement.
What if each season you exceed the requirement for your tier adds another season to your window? Almost like contract extensions.

Win the title, you now have a 5-year window to make the Sweet Sixteen. Win the title again, you have a 6-year window to make the Sweet Sixteen. This way, the 4-year windows aren't completely independent, and exceeding expectations buys you time, like in real life.

From how I read this... You only need to make the S16 once every 4 years, so if you win a NT in yr 2, you have 2 more years of that 4 yr contract, and then the next 4 years you need to get there again.

Ie: If you make a S16 in year 1, you get 7 years to make it back again... That seems incredibly generous.

Awesome Job working on this Adlorenz... Glad to see some progression is being made to actually make this a fun environment for all players old/new. Giving us new stuff, and working towards improvements/challenges for us along the way.
5/26/2021 8:08 PM (edited)
i read it as, these things have to be achieved in the previous 4 seasons to avoid getting fired - a condition that will be checked every season - but i could be totally off base there
5/26/2021 8:05 PM
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