Been away from it for a long time. I had lots of success at D2. Any changes, do we have more owners?

D2 has diluted a bit due to a reduction in D1 Coaches. D1 getting fuller across the board.

the balance in d1 is on several axes, IMO its the best its ever been. there is a really nice healthy mix of different sets and approaches, deep teams, short teams. recruiting is freaking nuts competitive, perhaps too much for a lot of folks long term, but it is nice to be really excited about signing a great guy instead of where anything less than a slate of 5*s is a failure. the parity between the big confs and the little confs is the best its been as a result, too.

The big change (since you’ve been gone, I believe) is that D1 jobs have been opened up, a change I’d been clamoring for for many years. So if you start brand new in a world you’ve never coached in, you should be able to get to low level D1 after just ~3 good seasons at D2, if that’s what you want. That’s mostly what is driving the D1 health gil is talking about.

Theyve announced plans to implement more strict standards for keeping most D1 power conference (and a few select high baseline mid-major) jobs. So basically, they plan to ramp up D1 firing as well. So far, that has not been applied yet.

Posted by shoe3 on 4/23/2022 1:42:00 PM (view original):
The big change (since you’ve been gone, I believe) is that D1 jobs have been opened up, a change I’d been clamoring for for many years. So if you start brand new in a world you’ve never coached in, you should be able to get to low level D1 after just ~3 good seasons at D2, if that’s what you want. That’s mostly what is driving the D1 health gil is talking about.

Theyve announced plans to implement more strict standards for keeping most D1 power conference (and a few select high baseline mid-major) jobs. So basically, they plan to ramp up D1 firing as well. So far, that has not been applied yet.

3 good seasons at D2 is considered opened up? Good lord. I just started brand new in 2 worlds and was hoping to jump after 1 solid D3 season.

I think if you have a good year at D3 and an excellent year at D2, it’s possible. I don’t think you can do it after a single season of D3, but I may be wrong. Maybe it’s possible, but shows up as not qualified? I know after my second round exit at FU, I was not qualified for any D1 jobs,but I didn’t try any to check.

By ~3 good seasons at D3, I just wanted to leave some leeway. I don’t know exactly what the standards are. I know that after 4 years of not sucking, you will almost certainly qualify for low D1, and that’s what I was getting at. Probably faster if you have very good seasons.

In Naismith, I was eligible for DI jobs after a 2nd round appearance in DIII and a first round exit in DII.

Posted by strikeout26 on 4/23/2022 2:21:00 PM (view original):
In Naismith, I was eligible for DI jobs after a 2nd round appearance in DIII and a first round exit in DII.

Good to know, thanks. I’ll be interested to see if I qualify for anything after a second season at D3. Conference play might drop the PR due to SOS, but sitting at a 1 seed after non-conference, so a S16 or better looks reasonable right now.

A D3 first round and a D2 Sweet Sixteen will open up the Patriot Conference (and probably other lower conferences as well). One coach in my conference did that.

I have a team in Wooden and a team in Knight. In both worlds, I got to D1 after one good D3 season and one good D2 season. Feel free to look at my resumes. Good luck.

Posted by zorzii on 4/23/2022 7:18:00 AM (view original):
Been away from it for a long time. I had lots of success at D2. Any changes, do we have more owners?

d3 30% more full, d2 30% less full, d1 population has literally doubled. game is doing well. community is thriving and is super strong.

Posted by Baums_away on 4/23/2022 1:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by shoe3 on 4/23/2022 1:42:00 PM (view original):
The big change (since you’ve been gone, I believe) is that D1 jobs have been opened up, a change I’d been clamoring for for many years. So if you start brand new in a world you’ve never coached in, you should be able to get to low level D1 after just ~3 good seasons at D2, if that’s what you want. That’s mostly what is driving the D1 health gil is talking about.

Theyve announced plans to implement more strict standards for keeping most D1 power conference (and a few select high baseline mid-major) jobs. So basically, they plan to ramp up D1 firing as well. So far, that has not been applied yet.

3 good seasons at D2 is considered opened up? Good lord. I just started brand new in 2 worlds and was hoping to jump after 1 solid D3 season.

youll jump very quickly. i think 1 in D3 and 1 in D2 should be good if you do well.

Posted by gillispie on 4/23/2022 12:22:00 PM (view original):
the balance in d1 is on several axes, IMO its the best its ever been. there is a really nice healthy mix of different sets and approaches, deep teams, short teams. recruiting is freaking nuts competitive, perhaps too much for a lot of folks long term, but it is nice to be really excited about signing a great guy instead of where anything less than a slate of 5*s is a failure. the parity between the big confs and the little confs is the best its been as a result, too.

I'm gonna go the opposite here. I do not think its the best it's been. In fact, I've seen a LOT of coaching fatigue/frustration across the landscape. A couple of comments that stood out, one is that pushing all these coaches to D1 has unintended consequences. Getting the population in D1 up is a good idea, and competition is great. But now recruiting is crappy at times. Not enough mid tier players in the pool that can fill the void of roll losses. Obviously this is a game and not real life, but a top tier school can aim for a dozen elite players in real life, and when they miss, they don't have to take a D3 player talent. Too many 8 and 9 man rosters.

I don't need to hear shoe's version of "it's a game of choices". No shiiitt. I know how to play. But I just feel the D1 push ended up "too much" as it stands. And I believe that it's starting to have a negative effect. And it might continue going forward. I know some people are burning out. My number of teams is down. I know of others that are seeing this as well.

This isn't really a complaint comment. Although some will see it that way. It's more of a "you heard it here first" comment. I don't feel like "the master plan" long term, is going to work out the way that new developers expected it to. But it's always possible I could be wrong. I hope I am actually.

If you’re burning out at D1 isn’t that what the other divisions are there for? The solution seems simple.