16x16 v32 Writeup Topic

My favorite part of these drafts, the writeups.
11/14/2023 10:12 PM
Key:
Blue = Drafted players that will play
Green = Drafted players that will not play
Red = Teammates


Team Name: Wan Ooh REE Bay

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Round 0 - 2015 Juan Uribe
While I was waiting for turn to pick, I had 2015 Uribe queued up from the start, and was surprised nobody grabbed him before me. I also considered 2006 Joe Nathan as well as 1996 Chipper Jones. I was happy to start this draft with Zach Greinke and Clayton Kershaw and what I assumed would be the first overall pick in round 1.
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Round 1.02 - 2002 Alan Embree
When I learned that cholatse was using Dale Murphy's $200K '92 season which got him pick #1, I assumed he would take '02 Embree. I spent most of my time researching my backup choice and finally settled on '98 Embree for teammates Maddux and Chipper. Then cholatse went with the top RP option, '12 Fernando Rodney. I was thrilled to add Pedro Martinez and Derek Lowe to the starting rotation. I made a huge tactical error by selecting Embree's full season instead of his partial season. I would've drafted first in round 2 had I thought this through a little more. It turns out those 33 extra innings would cost me big time on my next pick.
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Round 2.04 - 2002 Jason Isringhausen
I really wanted 2014 Joe Smith with this pick, in order to add Garrett Richards and Mike Trout, plus '14 Smith is a very usable RP (which is rare in this draft). But RTG grabbed him before me. But that's ok - I had a second choice - 2017 Joe Smith, another good RP, plus a stud SP, Corey Kluber. Nearly 9 hours have elapsed while I was waiting to make my selection. Excruciating... As I was walking out the door to go to the Chicago Bulls game, I noticed that PrimtetimeTW finally drafted and of course he took '17 Joe Smith. Damn it!! I hadn't fully settled on my backup choice yet. My choices were '13 Cabrera (who went on the next pick), '14 Kendrick (who I thought would slide to me next round…. he didn't) and the guy I settled on, '02 Isringhausen. The reason I didn't go with the obvious choice of Cabrera (+ Scherzer) is I am deathly afraid of that D- range at 3B. I also didn't want to lose my flexibility with 1B/3B. At this point, I haven't decided if I'm using Clark at 1B or OF and/or if I'm using Cabrera at 1B or 3B. I thought I would get '14 Kendrick next round to be my full-time 2B, grab a Polanco season that can start at 3B and then use Cabrera at 1B and use Clark in the OF. '02 Isringhausen is the best RP season left of any pitcher and he comes with a solid Jim Edmonds season who I'll use as my CF (he is a bit short on PAs). I have 2 usable RPs already. I'm really ticked that I missed both '14 and '17 Joe Smith though.
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Round 3.04 - 2012 Miguel Cabrera
I went back and forth on this pick. The three guys I wanted here were '11 Kendrick (+ Jered Weaver), '05 Polanco (for his flexibility playing 2b, 3b, of) and '12 Cabrera (+ Verlander). The problem with Kendrick is that 2011 is not a full season, so I'd still need more PA at 2B, which led me to instead maybe drafting '05 Polanco, who can fill in missing PAs at three positions. But what if '11 Kendrick is taken after I take '05 Polanco. His combined '05 season isn't a full season either plus there are no teammates I would use. So I finally settled on a strong Miguel Cabrera season (and he plays 1b and 3b so I still have position flexibility). Plus get a very usable SP in Justin Verlander, so I can throw 1100 innings with my five starting pitchers (which means all them will pitch in relief also).
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Round 4.10 - 1984 Dale Murphy
Well, both versions of '05 Polanco got picked as did '11 Kendrick. Also, '94 Tony Pena went, who I was looking at. Are people looking at my spreadsheet? Why do people keep taking the guys I want? Now, I am considering one of Dale Murphy's remaining stud seasons. Pedro and njbigwig grabbed Murphy's two best seasons. Jtpsops grabbed his 3rd best season. Dale Murphy only has six *good* seasons. The rest of his career is pretty underwhelming. I certainly don't want to get stuck with his $4.6M season of .247/.325/.390. So far, all four of my draft picks are usable players. I have 6 teammates already slotted. I still need a starting C, 1B, 2B, SS, OF. I can cobble together the 2B position using Kendrick/Polanco. Rollins will be my full-time SS. Maybe Clark can play either 1B or OF. I will probably need to use my last teammates at C, IB/OF and hopefully add one more long-inning RP.
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Round 5.14 - 2003 Placido Polanco
My top choices this round were '06 Rollins (+ stud Ryan Howard) or '04 Polanco + Bobby Abreu's best season). Sadly, '04 Polanco went two picks in front of me. I had '06 Rollins all typed in but changed my mind because there are just too many similar Rollins seasons still on the board, and only a few *decent* Polanco seasons left, especially when you consider defense. I'm fairly certain pedrocerrano is taking a good Polanco season here, so I'd better grab one now. I'm not worried about Polanco being a bit light on PA, since Howie Kendrick should make up for the shortfall.
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Round 6.15 - 2017 Joe Smith
Pedro did not take Polanco, so maybe I could have waited. Surprisingly, '06 Rollins was still on the board, so I should grab him now, right? Nope - I opted to grab Joe Smith's only decent pitching season left. I got sniped on his 2017 Indians season back in round 2 and had completely forgot that he played for two teams that year. When I realized my oversight, I couldn't wait to grab one of the only decent RP seasons left. No teammates worth mentioning. Damn… ronthegenius grabs '06 Rollins a few picks later. I am definitely taking the best Rollins season next round.
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Round 7.14 - 2004 Jimmy Rollins
After '06 Rollins went at 7.01, I had to sweat out 13 picks before my turn came up. Amazingly, nobody else took a Rollins season. I know many of his seasons are similar, but I thought '04 was clearly the best one left plus had the best teammate fit for my team (Bobby Abreu). Ironically, I got proxies from two different owners also wanting to draft Rollins after I selected.
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Round 8.15 - 1989 Jack Clark
This is a difficult puzzle to solve. I have two teammate spots left to use and I need a starting 1B and a starting C. There is one big-PA Tony Pena season left (546 PA). That's not enough to get through the entire season, plus he sucks at hitting. One teammate spot has to be a catcher (I'm looking at '98 Piazza via Guthrie). There are some really good hitting 1B available as teammates but I am finding that I could have salary cap issues if things break wrong. I decide to blow off using a teammate at 1B and settle on Clark's .410 OBP season. This opens up a spot to use a teammate for a long-inning reliever - which is probably for the better anyway.
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Round 9.16 - 1998 Mark Guthrie
There are a bunch of Ivan Rodriguez seasons available, but I find that he generally underachieves offensively, and he's mostly overpriced due to his throwing arm. There is one good Mike Piazza season left, and so this pick was probably the easiest decision I've had this entire draft - well maybe the second easiest after '02 Embree in round 1.

Round 10.16 - 1991 Candy Maldonado
Once I decided to not use a teammate at 1B, I opened up a spot for adding a long RP as a teammate. Guys I considered were '83 Orosco (Jorgensen), '79 Kern (Jorgensen) and the pitcher I eventually am using, '91 Duane Ward. I went with Ward over Orosco b/c he's a righty and this league will have lots of righty bats (Pena, Polanco, Kendrick, Cabrera, Murphy, plus teammates like Piazza, McGwire, Pujols, Nomar, A-Rod, etc.). Also, '91 Maldonado (.277, .374, .446) is actually usable and I need an outfielder fill-in for Edmonds who only has 576 PAs.
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Round 11.14 - 2010 Howie Kendrick
Basically, I don't much of anything at this point. I have my 9 teammates already slotted in (Kershaw, Greinke, Lowe, Pedro, Verlander, D.Ward, Edmonds, Abreu, Piazza). I need a few PAs at 1B & 2B and am happy taking either 2012 or 2010 Kendrick. Both are relatively pricey backups, but I figured out that I do have the cap room. Pedrocerrano grabbed 2012 Kendrick so I was happy to get 2010. This version actually has a usable SP teammate, Jared Weaver, but he's a slight downgrade from my '13 Verlander.
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Round 12.15 - 1983 Mike Jorgensen
Now, I am just taking guys that have teammates that others might use. I strongly considered using 1983 Jesse Orosco as my last RP teammate (instead of Duane Ward). So at least I deny others from using his 110 innings of 1.91 ERC#.
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Round 13.15 - 2018 Fernando Rodney
Rodney's best teammate is stud RP, Blake Treinen. I could take him instead of Ward. His stats are better than Ward's but he has 28 fewer innings. I do like Ward's big strikeout numbers, and his IP/G is much better. I wish I could roster both.

Round 14.14 - 1995 Darren Oliver
Round 15.14 - 1993 Tony Pena

These guys won't play nor do they have any notable teammates.

Here are the key players on my roster...
C - '98 Mike Piazza: 626 pa, .328, .390, .570 (B/A+/D+)
1B - '89 Jack Clark: 593 pa, .242, .410, 459 (C-/B)
2B - '03 Placido Polanco: 554 pa, .289, .352, .447 (A/A)
3B - '12 Miguel Cabrera: 697 pa, .330, .393, .606 (A-/C-)
SS - '04 Jimmy Rollins: 725 pa, .289, .348, .455 (A/D+)
OF - '02 Jim Edmonds: 576 pa, .311, .420, 561 (B/A)
OF - '84 Dale Murphy: 691 pa, .290, .372, ..547 (B/B-)
OF- '04 Bobby Abreu: 713, .301, .428, 544 (B-/C+)

Backup 1B/2B - '10 Howie Kendrick: 658 pa, .279, .314, 395
Backup OF: '91 Candy Maldonado: 208 pa, .277, .375, 446

Total Hitting: 6041 pa, .297, .384, .520 $53.622 million

Pitching Staff
2015 Zack Greinke: 223 ip, 0.84 whip, .187 oav, 1.6 bb/9, 8.1 k/9, 0.57 hr/9
2015 Clayton Kershaw: 233 ip, 0.88 whip, .194 oav, 1.6 bb/9, 11.6 k/9, 0.58 hr/9
2002 Pedro Martinez: 200 ip, 0.92 whip, .198 oav, 1.8 bb.9, 10.8 k/9, 0.59 hr/9
2002 Derek Lowe: 220 ip, 0.98 whip, 2.11 oav, 2.0 bb/9, 5.2 k/9, 0.49 hr/9
2012 Justin Verlander: 238 ip, 1.06 whip, .217 oav, 2.3 bb/9 9.0 k/9, 0.72 hr/9
1991 Duane Ward: 108 ip, 1.05 whip, .207 oav, 2.8 bb/9, 11.1 k/9, 0.25 hr/9
2002 Jason Isringhausen: 66 ip, 0.98 whip, .199 oav, 2.5 bb/9, 9.4 k9, 0.00 hr/9
2002 Alan Embree: 62 ip, 1.08 whip, .207 oav, 2.9 bb/9, 11.8 k/9, 0.87 hr/9
2017 Joe Smith: 54 ip, 1.04 whip, 229 oav, 1.7 bb/9, 11.8 k/9, 0.67 hr/9

Total Pitching (non-scrubs): 1404 ip, 0.96 whip, .204 oav, 2.0 bb/9, 9.4 k/9, 0.55 hr/9 $57.751 million
11/14/2023 11:09 PM
Apologize in advance as I tried this time to type up notes real-time as the draft went on, so it's long and very stream of consciousness, but it was interesting to go back and read it after seeing how things progressed and unfolded:

Nomination: 2019 Joe Smith (Houston Astros)
Teammates: Justin Verlander, Gerrit Cole, Zack Grienke

Pick: I didn't spend too much time researching, but was able to dust off my old 16x16 stuff to help out. I figured starting pitching, per usual, would be at a premium but especially in this iteration where ALL of your starters would have to be teammates. Joe Smith brings Verlander, Cole, and Greinke, if I want all 3. He also has some relief options (Pressly) and some hitting options (Bregman, Alvarez) if needed. Finally, Smith himself only has 25 IP but they are quite good (1.88 ERC#) so he can be a part-time closer. His salary ($752,585) should keep me towards the top of the draft to start.

Post-Draft: Generally happy with this pick. Having 3 starters in this version proved very useful. I didn't use Bregman but having him as an option also was very helpful as I went through the draft, giving me the option to use him at 3B and/or SS.

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Round 1, Pick 6: 2016 Howie Kendrick (Los Angeles Dodgers)
Teammate: Clayton Kershaw


Pick: Kinda crazy my $750k salary only gets me the 6th pick, but that's usually how these drafts go! My spreadsheet is about halfway set up. I mostly am looking for pitching. Kendrick brings a 149 IP Kershaw (1.20 ERC#), a fantastic Kenley Jansen season (69 IP, 1.01 ERC#), and a good Rich Hill short-inning season (110 IP, 2.00 ERC#) if needed. Kendrick himself isn't very good but he has 543 PA and can play 2B, 3B, OF, and 1B. His $2.65m salary hopefully won't hurt me too bad in the draft order and I don't think the $120m salary cap will be a huge concern at the end of this draft.

Post-Draft: In hindsight, not my best pick. In a more normal draft, Jansen and Rich Hill would be potentially very useful, but innings were at way too high of a premium in this version. I did still get Kershaw, who will essentially be my relief ace, but Kendrick is pretty useless and his salary hurt me. I spent much of the rest of the draft trying to find ways to make Jansen make sense and it just never did. Had I done all my research before this pick, I think I'd have gone in a different direction.

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Strategy Note
Interjecting here as I'm waiting on my Round 2 pick and have set up my spreadsheet and gotten a better handle on what this league will look like. Innings will be at a premium given the lack of options among the nominations. That means teammates are the only way to fill out the bulk of the pitching staff--heck, even the nominated relievers themselves are unlikely to be useful, there are only 7 seasons with an ERC# below 2.00! Given the years we're using, there aren't many big-inning starters to fill the staff with. There are 3 Phil Niekro seasons with 331 to 347 innings (all teammates of Dale Murphy from the late 70s Braves) and no other season has more than Steve Rogers' 302 IP. There are a fair amount between 250 and 300, but many aren't elite seasons.

Given all that, you probably need at MINIMUM 5 teammates to use on pitchers and likely 6 or 7. And that's just for starting pitchers. Taking a reliever as a teammate is a luxury, so my Kenley Jansen teammate selection is looking less useful. That also means most of my hitters will have to be from nominated players. If I can save a teammate spot or two from being used on starting pitchers, that can go to either another hitter teammate or to a reliever. I see only two ways to do that: (1) draft big-inning teammates like Niekro or Rogers. Two 300 IP teammates gives me 600 IP just like three 200 IP teammates would. The tradeoff here is quality. The other option is to take one of the few higher-inning seasons from nominated players (mostly Darren Oliver). There are just 7 seasons from nominated pitchers with over 108 innings, all are 145 to 202. Most of them are pretty bad, with 5 of them at 4.49 ERC# or worse. The two best options are 1999 Darren Oliver with 198 innings and 3.76 ERC# and 1990 Mark Guthrie with 145 innings and 3.67 ERC#. In theory, that gives you another hitting teammate--is it better to have 99 Oliver and one more stud hitter, or just another good teammate starting pitcher? Probably the latter, but worth monitoring at least.

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Round 2, Pick 5: 2013 Miguel Cabrera (Detroit Tigers)
Teammate: Max Scherzer


Pre-pick: With my strategy more honed in, I could narrow down my options here. Generally speaking, picks can fall in one of 4 categories: pick to get a useful nominated hitter, get a useful nominated pitcher, get a good hitter teammate, or get a good pitcher teammate. Obviously getting 2 of those things is great, if you can do it. I quickly eliminated picking a nominated pitcher, a good relief season just isn't super valuable in this draft especially. Outside of 2001 Barry Bonds (taken by njbigwig with Round 2, Pick 2) there isn't a hitter teammate worth taking this early.

I know I need most of my nominated hitters to play and that means likely Cabrera, Polanco, Rollins, and Murphy will start. Jack Clark probably too. Tony Pena doesn't have great seasons, but there are precious few teammate spots so using one on a catcher could mean tradeoffs elsewhere. My Kendrick pick is already a backup and likely Uribe, Maldonado, and Jorgensen will be too.

The best seasons left are mostly Cabrera and Murphy, though they each have a few good ones. Rollins has a bunch of similar-ish seasons. Jack Clark's 1987 STL season is interesting but it's not as good as Cabrera/Murphy and it comes with no teammates. Murphy has 6 similar "best" seasons but none of them come with any teammates, so I ruled him out next. That leaves me with Cabrera, Polanco, and Pena.

Cabrera's best remaining season is 2013. He plays 3B that year, so that would rule out my Bregman teammate pick, but that's ok. He also comes with Max Scherzer (214 IP, 2.05 ERC#).

The best Polanco season left is 2007, where he has a .383 OBP# and A+/B defense at 2B. I prefer a 2B version of Polanco to 3B given the better options at 3B I have with teammates (or Cabrera). No pitching teammates for Polanco but he does have two good OF teammates (Ordonez, the better hitter, or Granderson with A+ range). Polanco has two other seasons of similar quality in both his 2005 combined years. They don't come with teammates though and have about 100 fewer PA.

Tony Pena's best season is 1986. It's not great, but it's usable with 565 PA, A+ arm, and a .360 OBP#. His next-best season has just a .341 OBP# and he only has 4 seasons total with an OPS# of .750 or higher. After that, I probably have to burn a teammate on a catcher. Back to 1986, it's not only his best season but it comes with a very good Rick Rhoden teammate (254 IP, 2.72 ERC#). Rhoden's quality isn't as great but his volume of over 250 innings could help save a teammate spot later on.

After going back and forth a lot, I've decided to rank them: 1) 86 Pena, 2) 13 Cabrera, 3) 07 Polanco.

Pick: After all that, I called an audible on myself and went with 13 Cabrera. I figured he's the best 3B season out there, I can move Bregman to SS (if I get a short PA version of Rollins) or just move to a different teammate altogether (including a catcher if I don't get a good Pena), and 13 Scherzer is better than 76 Rhoden.

Post-Draft: Happy with this choice. Cabrera's defense (range, specifically) at 3B won't be great but he's the #1 nominated hitter, plays a premium position, and brings a very solid teammate with him.

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Round 3, Pick 13: 1986 Tony Pena (Pittsburgh Pirates)
Teammate: Rick Rhoden
Pre-pick:
Cabrera's expensive season sent me towards the back of the round. 1986 Pena is still there, currently, but I no longer need Rhoden as much with Scherzer now in tow, though he gives me options. 2007 Polanco is gone, so the next best ones there are the pair of 2005 seasons. The best nominated hitting seasons left are from Dale Murphy, though he doesn't come with any teammates and has 4 very good seasons that are similar. He does have a sneaky good catching season--the defense isn't great at D/B/C- but the offense is quite good with .810 OPS#. He also has two small salary seasons if I end up punting him and needing to save money. The only other hitting season that seems worth considering is 87 Jack Clark with his 1.045 OPS#, though there's no teammates and he has to play 1B (D-/D- in the OF).

As far as teammates go, I don't necessarily need another SP teammate, though one more would be nice as I'm currently projected to get to about 1250-1300 innings with my 5 SP teammates plus the nominated relievers I'll be forced to draft. The best hitter teammates are almost all big-hitting 1B/OF, with multiple McGwires, Belles, Pujolses, Giambis, and Heltons available. Two combinations stick out here. One is picking up 2001 Isringhausen. He has the best remaining RP season, a very usable 2.01 ERC# with 72 IP, and he brings Jason Giambi with him. His low-ish salary may help move me up a few spots as well. The other is 2001 Juan Uribe. It's only 281 PA, but with an .821 OPS# and A/C- defense at SS that could be a useful platoon. More importantly, he brings both Todd Helton and Larry Walker as potential teammates. I should also mention 1994 Tony Pena who brings both Albert Belle and Kenny Lofton, while Pena himself has a decent short-PA season with .745 OPS# (his 3rd-best remaining hitting season) with A/B/B defense and a small salary. This would necessitate using a teammate spot on a catcher though (unless, I guess, I do the Dale Murphy season mentioned above).

Pick: When my pick came up, both Polancos had gone and his next-best season isn't good enough to take here. That left me with two pools of choices--backup options 94 Pena, 01 Uribe, and 01 Isringhausen primarily to get a good hitting teammate; or 1986 Pena or one of the Dale Murphys (or perhaps Jack Clark) as a nominated player who could start. I like a lot of the hitting teammate options left--there's not much difference between Belle, Walker, Giambi, Helton, etc. I also would not move up the draft order much given how the salaries work out. Additionally, Uribe's 2004 season is now a viable option at 2B on par with Polanco, so I'll keep him available. Finally, there are plenty of Murphys and other OF options (Jack Clark, Maldonado, teammates, etc.) if I don't get a good one.

All of that pushed me to take 86 Pena. With 565 PA he can bat last and make it through pretty much the whole season. It's probably his best hitting season and he has the A+ arm. Finally, he does bring Rick Rhoden as a potential teammate, which I may need. If I use the 6 best pitching teammates I currently have (19 Verlander/Cole/Greinke, 16 Kershaw, 13 Scherzer, and 86 Rhoden), that's 1261 IP. That would leave 3 teammates for hitters and I no longer need a catcher, so can put those towards big hitters.

Post-Draft: In hindsight, I wonder if trying to roll with 79 Murphy with a Pena as a backup would have been better? 79 Murphy went in the 13th round. Still, I'm pretty happy with this Pena, which I had as the best of his seasons. Relatively high OBP# and A+ arm, plus he brings Rhoden with him.

The other thought, looking back, is maybe it would have been better to go with the best Murphy season and used a teammate spot on catcher, instead of Pena and Abreu.

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Round 4, Pick 14: 2001 Juan Uribe (Colorado Rockies)
Teammates: Todd Helton, Larry Walker

Pre-pick:
As I wait around for my next pick, I'm planning things out. I am probably going to use 3 hitting teammates, meaning I need 5 offensive spots taken by nominated players. I already have 2 of those (Pena, Cabrera) so need 3 more. Rollins and Murphy likely make up 2 of those. I'll almost for sure want to use two teammates on 1B/OF. The third will likely either be a 2B or another OF. On 2B in particular, it either needs to be Polanco (there's also one Uribe season) or it has to be Utley coming with Rollins as a teammate.

Pitching-wise, I'm set on innings from starters. It's looking unlikely I'll be able to or want to use a teammate spot on Jansen (or any other reliever), so I'll need to rely on the nominated players in my bullpen. Down to just two seasons for any reliever with an ERC# below 2.27 (one is just 28 innings), so mostly will just be Setup B-type guys with Kershaw (149 IP, 1.20 ERC#) likely pitching out of the pen.

Next pick leaning towards getting a stud hitting teammate or two, though may need to ensure I get a good starter from a nominated player, like Murphy or Polanco. 01 Uribe is interesting to get two great lefty-hitting teammates in Helton and Walker. We'll see how this round goes.

Pick: A couple of the good Murphys went, so I reconsidered again whether I should take one of his two very good remaining seasons--82 with better hitting or 80 with better defense. However, I decided I really wanted Helton and Walker. Not only are they obviously great hitters but both are lefties and with the one good Jorgensen season going, all the good nominated hitters are righties. The only other 1B/OF lefties in the same ballpark as Helton/Walker are a couple Giambis, a Delgado, and a Ryan Howard. The next best lefty OF available to me was probably Granderson or Edmonds. I now will have a 2-3-4 batting order of Walker/Cabrera/Helton. That's pretty good, I think. In addition, Uribe's lower salary moves me up a couple spots next round and he will be a good platoon SS against lefties. I could potentially wait and grab the last Rollins (he has a 394 PA season that's not great, but will do) or potentially add Bregman as a teammate and have him shift to 3B when Cabrera needs a rest.

Post-Draft: Very happy with this pick. There won't be many lefty hitters but will probably be lots of righty pitching. Getting two of the best left-handers should be huge for my offense. I also stuck this team in PNC Park, which favors lefties with -1 HR to RF but -2 to LF. Hopefully, that gives us a small boost for Helton and Walker.

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Round 5, Pick 12: 2004 Placido Polanco (Philadelphia Phillies)
Teammate: Bobby Abreu
Pre-pick:
Moved up to the 12th pick and currently writing this at the start of the round. Likely next pick will either be Dale Murphy, Polanco or Rollins. For Murphy, if one of his two good seasons are left, that would be very intriguing. They are by far the best remaining OF seasons among nominated players. Otherwise, I will wait and piece together OF spots from lesser Murphys and Clark/Maldonado/Jorgensen. I also still have 543 utility PA from my 16 Kendrick and he's rated in the OF, though his bat is not great.

As for the middle infield, I have a couple possible scenarios. (1) Get a Polanco and a Rollins (no teammate), (2) get Rollins and bring Utley with him, or (3) get Polanco, punt on Rollins, and use Bregman as a teammate. The best remaining Rollins that brings back a good Utley is 2006, but he's not significantly better than about 5 or 6 other Rollins. So that pushes me towards Polanco. His two best remaining 2B seasons are both quite good (around .340-.350 OBP# and A/A defense). He also has 3 other serviceable seasons, so I'm leaning towards Polanco soon, then wait on Rollins with Bregman as a fallback option if needed.

Pick: Interestingly, all of the Murphys and Polancos made it back to me. In the interim, I became convinced drafting Polanco was the right move. He's almost as good as Utley or any other teammate 2B would be and if I miss out on the best Murphys, I can still go with a 2nd teammate outfielder and then just piece the last one together from the nominated players. If I miss out on Polanco, I have to use a teammate on 2B and that means I likely have to burn a pick sooner rather than later on Rollins, who I don't love any of his seasons really.

The two best remaining Polanco seasons (03 and 04) are nearly identical. $5.46m vs $5.56m, 554 vs 555 PA, .779 OPS# vs .763 OPS#, A/A vs A+/A. Incredible really. His 03 season is a slightly better hitter, but slightly worse fielder. I very slightly preferred the 03 version but it really was a toss up. I ended up going with the 04 version simply to have the option to use Bobby Abreu as a teammate. I don't know if I will, but his .426 OBP#, decent speed, 713 PA, and passable defense that I could stick in center if needed is a good option to have.

Post-Draft: Glad I took this version as I ended up using Abreu. It feels like I should have done better than Abreu but it's not easy to find good lefty outfielders in this league and his high PA, high OBP, decent fielding, good speed combination will fit great.

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Round 6, Pick 14: 1984 Jack Clark (San Francisco Giants)
Pre-pick:
Starting to plan out the remainder of my roster and see how I'm doing with the salary cap. To this point, I've pretty much ignored it. As of now, if I use the 6 SP teammates and then Helton/Walker/Abreu, I'm around $98m with 10 spots left, all for nominated players (5 hitters, 5 pitchers). I need to get a good enough Rollins to at least platoon with Uribe and I need to fill one remaining OF spot. My relievers don't have to be great--I'm at 1286 innings already--they just have to get me enough innings to feel comfortable.

I did some checking and the average salary for each of the players I have left to pick comes in just below $20m, which is about what I have left. I should be fine but need to minimize any wasted salary and perhaps make sure I grab a couple low-salary versions to make sure I preserve enough cap room. I can also downgrade some of my teammates if necessary, of course, though that's not ideal.

Pick: Before this pick, I went through each remaining player to see where I may want to pick early versus who I can wait on. Embree and Rodney have enough seasons to either get a decent relief season or at least a cheap one. Mike Jorgensen is the best hitter to wait on. For Rollins, I can likely wait a while, though there are a couple seasons that I prefer to at least save some money if I need it.

Both of the good Murphy seasons finally went, so there really isn't an elite OF season left. At this point, I will likely use two teammates in the OF (probably Walker and Abreu), so just need to piece together one season from four remaining OFers. Because of that, I don't need to worry as much about volume and so I went with the best per-at-bat season left for me, 84 Clark. He has a .324/.439/.544 slash line and plays A-/D- in the OF. He'll likely be the short side of my LF platoon.

Post-Draft: I'll be playing a few D- range guys, so that may doom me, but I rated this the 5th-best batting season among nominated players. Of course, only 249 PA and the aforementioned poor range, but he'll be a great fit in the lineup vs lefties.

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Round 7, Pick 13: 2002 Mark Guthrie (New York Mets)
Pre-pick:
Looking forward, there's not much more on the hitters side that's exciting. Will need to find another 400 or so outfield PA and pick up a Rollins. Pitching-wise, will likely just pick up the best relief options left, though I already have my top 1286 innings locked in, so the rest of my pitchers will be low-leverage innings mostly.

I keep trying to find a way to make the teammate puzzle more optimized but I don't see any. Rhoden is my worst teammate pitcher but giving up his 250 innings for either a reliever (Jansen) or another hitter (Bregman) just doesn't seem to make sense. I'd have to replace his 2.72 ERC# with something like 90 Guthrie or 99 Oliver and their ERC# are basically a full run higher. Is that worth upgrading Rollins to Bregman or an OF spot to someone like Trout or Beltran?

Pick: I went with 02 Guthrie, who had 49 innings with a 2.49 ERC#. That was the lowest ERC# available to me. He doesn't have a lot of cheap seasons so most are in this $1-2m range but have more/worse innings so this way I get usable innings and avoid some wasted money.

Post-Draft: Nothing to add here, Guthrie will be my 3rd-best reliever after Kershaw and Joe Smith.

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Round 8, Pick 10: 2014 Jimmy Rollins (Philadelphia Philllies)
Pick:
Didn't get time to look at this before my pick so looking at it as I'm up. Down to four hitters and 3 of them are outfielders so I can wait there. A few Rollins have gone, do I go for 14 Rollins, who is the best available to me but has 609 PA when I only need about 400, or wait and get 10 Rollins, who has 394 PA and I can get hopefully much later? The problem is I don't want to be the last one left out and get one of the two short PA seasons.

For pitching, I can wait on Embree and Rodney, where I'll either get a semi-usable season or a cheap one, most likely. That leaves me looking at Darren Oliver and Isringhausen. Oliver's big-inning season went and he does have some landmines to avoid. He has two good relief seasons with ERC# under 3.00 (07 and 08) which are interesting. Isringhausen has a couple decent relief seasons, but he also has the one teammate I'm still looking at in 08 Pujols, though I don't really NEED him, he might be an upgrade over Abreu even if I have to play him out of position in the OF (his A-/A+ ratings at 1B should translate fine).

I went back and forth a bunch, even typing in 08 Isringhausen at one point but decided to play it safe and get the best SS left for me. That pretty much sews up all my starting spots, with just half of an outfielder left to go.

Post-Draft: Glad I ended up taking Rollins here as the other version (2010) I was looking at went in the next round, surprisingly, I also wouldn't have really had a way to use the extra salary, which was the main benefit of the 2010 version.

I have a lot of bad fielding, but my up-the-middle defense of Rollins and Polanco is very good at least.

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Round 9, Pick 13: 1976 Dale Murphy (Atlanta Braves)
Pre-pick:
I went safe with my Round 8 pick to make sure I got a Rollins I liked. I probably could have waited and gotten the 394 PA Rollins, but there's just not really enough other value left to make up the difference I thought. Now I just need to get as much OF or RP value from my nominated players while making sure I stay under the cap. It shouldn't be too much of an issue to do so--I have about $12.7m for the final 7 spots and the average salary for those remaining players is around $10.8m.

Offensively, I think my best hope is to get a couple hundred decent PA from both Maldonado and Jorgensen in the OF, then get one of the Dale Murphy seasons with like 75 PA as a backup catcher to both save money and spell Pena just a little bit (he has 565 PA). Maldonado has several seasons that fit this, but Jorgensen has fewer. His best remaining season has good offense but he's more expensive with 500+ PA and would have to play 1B, moving Helton to the OF.

On the pitching side, there's a handful of somewhat useful relief seasons with ERC# around 3.00 or a bit below. I can probably mostly avoid a big hit on salary, with the exception being Isringhausen. Rodney has nothing exciting left but also no landmines, so will likely pick him last.

Right now, leaning towards focusing on the hitters to make sure I get the last pieces I need to complete my lineup. Jorgensen only has the one strong season left and he's a left-handed hitter but it's 535 PA and makes me play Helton out of position. I also don't want to take on the $3.5m salary without some assurances I can fit it easily. Maldonado has enough similar seasons I can wait a bit. So I think I'll lock in one of the low-salary Murphy seasons (76 or 77) where he gives me a backup catcher and ensures I don't have to roster one his high-salary seasons (he still has 6 seasons at $3.5m or higher).

Update: Looking more at it, do I take the one good remaining Jorgensen season and roll the dice I can fit it all in? There are 7 owners left who need a Murphy and there may be folks loking to shave off from salary. If I do take Jorgensen, that leaves me with $9.3m for the final 6 spots. Amazingly, the average salary of the remaining 6 players is...$9.3m. I should be able to fit it.

Hopeful plan: 75 Jorgensen, 76/77 Murphy, 91/95 Maldonado.

Pick: 77 Murphy ended up going a few picks before me so I figured I should play it safe and grab the other cheap, backup catcher season to be safe, 76 Murphy. 637 PA for catchers makes things a lot easier than 565.

Post-Draft: Getting a few more catcher PA certainly helps managing this team. I was able to get all 3 of the guys in the plan, with 75 Jorgensen and 95 Maldonado coming on the next two picks. Whether that is a good plan, that part remains to be seen.

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Round 10, Pick 11: 1975 Mike Jorgensen (Montreal Expos)
Pre-pick:
With cheap Murphy in tow, salary shouldn't really be an issue any more. My next target is 75 Jorgensen. If I get him, I'm pretty much set for my lineup, with Jorgensen essentially platooning with Jack Clark. Kendrick can fill in anywhere but SS and C wherever I need some extra rest. At that point, Maldonado would be a decent luxury to have as a pinch-hitter/spot-starter and I can try to nab another relief season or two that can help, though I already have 1335 good innings so just need some filler.

I'm also starting to think about where to play. I have some pretty good HR hitters--Helton hit 49, Cabrera 44, Walker and Abreu in the 30s--but I also have a bit of a HR problem on my staff. Verlander is at .96 HR# and Cole is at .79, with most of the rest of the staff around .50 to .60. I'll probably go for a negative HR part but not heavily so, with neutral to plus for doubles and singles. Limited to 1973+, there's no perfect fit. PNC Park, SunTrust Park, and Humphrey Metrodome look like options at a first quick glance. I'll look more into it later on.

Pick: Jorgensen made it to me and for once I didn't change my mind at the last second!

Post-Draft: This ended up being the weakest part of my team. I probably should have gotten a better Murphy or figured out a way to use another teammate here. Jorgensen at least gives a decent lefty bat, but it's not a great bat and he hurts my defense even more by forcing Helton to the OF.

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Round 11, Pick 11: 1995 Candy Maldonado (Toronto Blue Jays)
Pre-pick:
I now have about 5500 PA I'm happy with and then Howie Kendrick's 543 PA will just fill in as needed. Maldonado may help a bit to spell Walker against some lefties, but it's not necessary as I can give a few more at-bats to Jorgensen or let Kendrick rest Walker. There are 3 Maldonado seasons that would be nice fits--95 TOR, 95 TEX, or 91 TOR.

On the pitching side, down to 3 pitchers available to me with ERC# below 3.00 (all barely so, they are in the 2.90s). Isringhausen also has a 105 IP 3.29 ERC# season (95) that wouldn't be terrible. I've got $8.8m to play with for the final 5 spots so the cap shouldn't be an issue.

Pick: Isringhausens were going fast and I was worried I could get stuck with his $3.8m 96 season, causing cap issues. However, after planning it out, as long as I ALSO didn't get stuck with Maldonado's highest remaining season ($2.7m), I would be fine. I thought about Embree's 04 season which has the best remaining ERC# of any options avaialable to me at 2.93, but I went with Maldonado to ensure I could fit under the cap. Maybe I should have gone Embree, we'll see.

As for Maldonado, his two best seasons remaining were both 1995, one Toronto and the other Texas. I chose Toronto simply because if I needed to I could swap down to his partial season and save a few hundred thousand. I won't use all of his 256 PA on the combined season anyway, so dropping to 214 PA shouldn't matter. He'll mostly just relieve Larry Walker against some lefties and provide a decent enough bat off the bench (better than Kendrick at least).

Post-Draft: Maldonado is mostly a luxury, so I probably should have gotten the better Embree here. Probably won't matter much either way.

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Round 12, Pick 11: 2001 Alan Embree (Chicago White Sox)
Pre-pick:
I'm essentially done with my roster. I will carry six pitching teammates (Verlander, Cole, Greinke, Kershaw, Scherzer, Rhoden) and three hitting teammates (Helton, Walker, Abreu). The only other teammate that could possibly make sense is 06 Pujols (by taking 06 Isringhausen), replacing Abreu. That would cost me about $2m, but could fit that in with the cheaper Isringhausen. The main positive for Pujols is the power, his .650 SLG# is 130 points higher than Abreu. However, there are three negatives--1) Pujols has 75 fewer PA, 2) Pujols is right-handed and 3) I would have to play Pujols out of position in the OF. Abreu's .426 OBP# is almost an idential match for Pujols and his B-/C+ defense likely outpaces Pujols 1B grades of A-/A+ translated to the OF. Abreu also has 79 speed vs 56 for Pujols, which would be a benefit in the leadoff spot. All of those smaller things likely don't outweigh Pujols huge edge in power, but it makes it closer for sure.

Otherwise, I just need to get the best innings I can from the last 4 reliever picks and fit it in the budget, which won't be a problem. Hopefully I can grab 04 Embree (2.93 ERC#), but if not my next 3 targets are with ERC# in the mid-3s: 01 Embree CHW, 05 Rodney, and 19 Rodney WAS. After that, well, let's hope they don't have to pitch important innings.

Pick: Ugh, 04 Embree goes right before me, so I settle for 01 Embree. He'll be a Setup B for me. I chose his full season in the draft just because it was only a few thousand more, but I'll almost for sure use the partial version (fewer innings, better quality).

Post-Draft: Bummed the 04 Embree didn't make it to me...almost!

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Round 13, Pick 10: 2013 Darren Oliver (Toronto Blue Jays)
Pick:
Slim picking at this point as I'm down to Oliver, Isringhausen, and Rodney. A couple Isringhausen seasons went, so I checked to make sure I'd be fine if I got stuck with his $3.8m 96 season and I am, as long as I don't take a high-salary Oliver. Rodney has the best ERC# of any available season but just 33 innings and he has a few decent seasons left. There are 3 owners left who need Darren Oliver and he has two relief seasons at the top, one is 49 innings at 3.79 ERC# and the other is 56 innings at 4.17. After that, he has 3 starter seasons with IP in the 174-202 range and ERC# around 4.50, but I can't roster those if I get Isringhausen so would need to take probably his 04 season with 5.34 ERC#. I was able to jump ahead and so I went with the 13 Oliver with 3.79 ERC#. I'll now be fine with whatever Isringhausen I get and then I'll get some 50-odd innings of high-HR, high-BB, high-K Rodney innigns with ERC# in the 4.00 range.

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Round 14, Pick 8: 1996 Jason Isringhausen (New York Mets)
Pre-Pick:
At this point, I actually prefer to get the expensive 96 Isringhausen. I have nothing else to do with that salary and while I don't need the innings, it's always nice to have some extra. His 4.61 ERC# in 96 is about the same as his 99 Mets partial (4.55) and way better than his 97 season (7.82!!!). Hopefully the other two owners who need Isringhausen need to save money and want his cheaper options.

There are 6 owners who still need Rodney. He has 5 seasons between 3.47 and 4.09 ERC#, innings range from 33 to 75. If I'm last in line, I'll get likely a 64-inning 4.35 ERC#. I'm guessing he'll give up about 500 walks whichever version I get, so hopefully don't need to pitch him too often!

Pick: I was able to get 96 Isringhausen. As expected, 3dayrotation wanted the lower salary and didn't want to get stuck with this one so I could have waited (or I could have taken a different version and tried to force 3day or someone else to roster his $3.8m).

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Round 15, Pick : 2018 Fernando Rodney (Minnesota Twins)
Pre-Pick:
My last pick will be a Rodney. I have enough room to take any of his remaining seasons under my salary cap. Someone took a bad but cheap season so I'll get something with a 4.09 ERC# or better, not terrible? He'll join Embree and Oliver in the Setup B group that I hope rarely has to see the mound.

Pick: 18 Rodney (MIN version) it is. He'll join Embree and Oliver in my Setup B scrum.

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Ballpark: PNC Park

Recap:
My biggest blunder was taking Hendrick in the 1st Round. I also probably should have taken Murphy instead of Pena early on and committed to a teammate catcher.

I wonder if focusing a bit more on finding pitchers with just a few more innings could have saved me a teammate spot and gone with 5 pitcher/4 hitters instead of the 6/3 I ended up with. One more big-hitting OF (replacing Jorgensen) would be a big improvement.

I also think it's funny how as the draft progresses, the players get worse but it still feels like the top guy you want is the most important thing and oh-my-god I hope he falls to me. Early on, I couldn't have given two sh*ts about 75 Jorgensen. In Round 11, I was sweating out whether he'd make it to me. Heck, I was even hopeful on which version of Fernando Rodney I'd get with my last pick that hopefully never sees an important inning.

Anyway, overall, I'm relatively happy with how things turned out and, as always, a very fun drafting experience.

Lineup:
CF Abreu
RF Helton
3B Cabrera
LF Walker
1B Jorgensen/Clark
C Pena
SS Rollins/Uribe
2B Polanco

Bench:
Backup C: Murphy
Utility: Kendrick
Backup OF/PH: Maldonado

Rotation:
SP1 Verlander
SP2 Cole
SP3 Grienke
SP4 Scherzer
SP5 Rhoden

Bullpen:
Relief Ace Kershaw
Closer Smith
Setup A Guthrie
Setup B Embree
Oliver
Rodney
Mop-up Isringhausen
11/15/2023 11:19 AM
Looking at the quality of other people's rotations, my team stands no shot in this league.
11/15/2023 11:44 AM
Wow - I love the detailed writeup. I shared a lot of the same thought process as you, but I just didn't write it all down, which is why my writeup is much shorter. I will be curious how many *good* innings others decided to go with. I had the salary to add more innings (by replacing Ward with Weaver) or I could have upgraded my quality and lowered my innings (replacing Ward with Treinen), but felt like 1400 *good* innings was the right amount. My crappy pitchers (Guthrie, Oliver, Rodney) will be mopups only.
11/15/2023 12:04 PM
Player Selection:
2015 Dodgers seemed a great first choice. We all will NEED starting pitching teammates. When I made this selection we had a DH so I figured that at worst Rollins (563 PA, .285 OBP, 13 HR, 12 SB) would be a low average 9 hole short stop with some speed and power. If I managed to get another guy who had 400 or more PA’s at short he could platoon or ride the pine much of the time. Once the DH was removed I looked at other things to do and in the end decided that the one-two of Kershaw (232.2 IP, 2.13 ERA, 88 WHIP) and Grenkie (222.2 IP, 1.66 ERA, .84 WHIP) was too valuable to let go.
Overall Approach:
Looking at the players available I decided not to chase talent in daftable players. Focus on getting as close as I could to 9 stud teammates (four starting hitters and 5 pitchers for at least 1000 IP). I figured we would all have some bad relievers so that shouldn’t hurt too much. Even holding off on targeting bats I should have no problem getting a functional Cabrera or Murphy to join my 4 hitting teammates. The rest of the group should work to play/platoon at the rest of the positions. I definitely want to make sure I get a Uribe that can cover short too so that I don’t have to find a teammate there. So basically I just built a list of the best teammates available and who I would have to draft to get them.
Round One:
I very much wish I was drafting earlier… watching someone with my starters nab the 02 sox was painful. One of the best pitchers on my list was 14 King Felix (236 IP, 2.14 ERA, .92 WHIP). Not sure Rodney (66 IP, 2.85 ERA, 1.35 WHIP) will help my draft position or my bullpen, but it is in line with my plan. He ended up being my best drafted reliever… ouch.
Round Two:
OK… not a 200 IP guy, but one that I have had success with before and I already have 691 IP and have a half dozen 200 IP guys left that aren’t as good as 13 Jose Fernandez (172.2 IP, 2.19 ERA, .98 WHIP). Drafting Polanco’s (416 PA, .315 OBP, 1 HR, 2 SB) platoon third base season will give me a second good glove on the right side with little to no range. When he and Rollins are in they should field everything they get to… they just won’t get to much.
Round Three:
The plan was to take 94 Maldanado here. Nope. He was taken by Primetime. Switch gears. Now I want the 94 Pena but if I take him I need a teammate catcher. I welcome some horrible left handed innings from 97 Guthrie (70 IP, Ouch ERA, Oooff WHIP) and the $10 million Piazza (633 PA, .431 OBP, 40 HR, 5 SB). He should slot in as my 4 or 5 hole hitter depending on my Cabrera and Murphy choices.
Round Four:
Started sliding down the draft board.. and got the guy I wanted. 94 Pena (181 PA, .341 OBP, 2 HR, 0 SB) will be a solid defensive replacement who’s bat won’t hurt me when he hits. His best attribute in this league are his teammates. Lofton (750 PA, .412 OBP, 12 HR, 60 SB) and Belle (689 PA, .438 OBP, 36 HR, 9 SB) will anchor my lineup and should be available most every day. It also gives me a lefty bat… something that there isn’t much of in our nominated players.
Round Five:
I was looking for one more bat, preferably left handed. There were a couple of Giambi’s out there I could grab but the 03 Helton (703 PA, .458 OBP, 33 HR, 0 SB) came my way by selecting Uribe (343 PA, .297 OBP, 10 HR, 7 SB). Uribe will fill in the rest of the PA’s I need at short (and in the end, second).
Round Six:
The good Cabrera’s are gone. There are still some decent Murphy’s. As I have Helton at first I might as well take 82 Murphy (698 PA, .378 OBP, 36 HR, 23 SB). Good bat, good D, good speed. Mostly my 5 hole hitter. Still need one more starter for my plan.
Round Seven:
I strongly consider altering my plan here. I thought about targeting the big inning Isringhousing and Oliver to use as a tandem with 300 IP. Throw them every 4th day and hope to win some 21-19 games and take an extra bat for my lineup. Taking 92 Clark (320 PA, .350 OBP, 5 HR, 1 SB) gives me a ton of bad PA’s but also a good Clemens (247 IP, 2.41 ERA, 1.08 WHIP). Clark doesn’t tie me to anything and Clemens gives me the option of taking him as a 5th pitcher, replacing the King for more innings if I go with the bad tandem or just not making the roster.
Round Eight:
Going to need to play Kendrick at second. His 13 version (703 PA, .458 OBP, 33 HR, 0 SB) gives me a guy who can play and lets me keep my crazy tandem plan alive. Yes, Trout would be the 4th outfielder I drafted but he wouldn’t be That painful at second or third, right? He could be the “platoon” with both Kendrick and Polanco? Would have been interesting at least…
Round Nine:
Ya. Not gonna do the tandem thing. I have my 5 pitchers set. I have my 4 hitters set. No more need for teammates. I have 1b set. I have 2b/ss set (Kendrick/Uribe/Rollins). I have my outfield and catcher set. I have 400 PA’s at third. 03 Cabrera (346 PA, .325 OBP, 12 HR, 0 SB) is consistent with my good fielding no range choices on the left side of the infield. He will provide more pop than Polanco. Now I have a little over 750 PA’s at third. At this point all I need is some supplemental players that don’t kill my cap.
Rounds Ten-Thirteen:
Pitching Goal: Don’t get total crap, don’t get crazy IP. I know they will be bad. I know they will blow games when they pitch. Hopefully they won’t blow more games than everyone else's bad relievers. To that end I welcome 07 Embree (68 IP, 3.97 ERA, 1.26 WHIP), 94 Oliver (72 IP, 3.42 ERA, 1.5 WHIP), 15 Smith (65 IP, 3.58 ERA, 1.28 WHIP) and 06 Isringhausen (59 IP, 3.55 ERA, 1.47 WHIP).
I did have quite a scare after my Smith pick when I realized that it was possible for me to get stuck with the big inning Isringhausen… I was SOOO happy when the first person who needed him took someone else.
Rounds Fourteen and Fifteen:
Now it’s just a matter of staying under the cap with the players I have set to go. If the guys I draft have some use that’s just a bonus. The 91 Brewers Maldanado (333 PA, .342 OBP, 12 HR, 4 SB) can catch the ball and gave me flexibility in moving to the partial if I had to because of my last pick. 79 Jorgensen (177 PA, .293 OBP, 6 HR, 0 SB) was there for me at the end… leaving me at a robust $119,853,212. Very close to the cap.
Line Up:
CF Lofton
LF Belle
1B Helton
C Piazza
RF Murphy
2B Kendrick/Uribe (make up low PA’s)
3B Polanco/Cabrera
SS Rollins/Uribe (Make up low PA’s)
Rotation:
Greinke
Kershaw
King Felix
Clemens
Bullpen:
Fernandez
Rodney
Pray.
11/15/2023 12:42 PM
Posted by Jtpsops on 11/15/2023 11:44:00 AM (view original):
Looking at the quality of other people's rotations, my team stands no shot in this league.
My pitching may be good, but I may finish near the bottom in runs scored. I'm using 5 nominated players in my starting lineup (Clark, Polanco, Cabrera, Rollins, Murphy) and don't have any of their *best* seasons. And my three teammates aren't guys you're really scared of facing if you're a pitcher (i.e., the average salary of my three hitting teammates = $6.42 million).
11/15/2023 12:59 PM
Nomination: 2004 Jason Isringhausen
Team Name: Thin Izzy
Ballpark: Yankee Stadium I

I wanted a player that gave me a good, usable RP season and diversity of teammates to fill in holes as the draft progressed. ’04 Jason Isringhausen brought Albert Pujols, Jim Edmonds, Scott Rolen, Tony Womack and a decent Chris Carpenter season if needed at the back of the rotation.

Once I saw how far back in the draft order I was going to be, I contemplated switching, but outside of teams like the 2019 Astros, 2015 Dodgers, 2001 Diamondbacks and 2005 Red Sox, I didn’t think there were many teams that offered the multiple stud pitching teammates needed to justify a switch. I figured it would be easy to find 4 stud pitching teammates during the draft, but things did not fall as ideally as I’d hoped.

I also had planned initially to use Pujols at 1B, Rolen at 3B and draft a stud Cabrera season to DH. I decided to stand pat after DH was removed, and probably should’ve gone a different direction.

Round 1
No shot at ’02 Embree or ’12 Rodney dropping to me. I could have targeted an elite SP here, but I decided to jump on a relatively solid nominated RP season in ’10 Darren Oliver, also bringing along Cliff Lee and Josh Hamilton. Lee usually does well for me with his insane BB/9, and Hamilton was a strong LH teammate candidate. Sadly, Hamilton didn’t make the cut.

Round 2
There were likely better long-term choices here, but I opted for ’18 Howie Kendrick as a good PH option. He brings along Max Scherzer and improves my draft position.

Round 3
This is another pick that I probably could’ve waited on in hindsight. I decided I didn’t want to use a teammate slot at catcher though, so ’83 Tony Pena was the best option. I would’ve grabbed ’12 Miguel Cabrera here had schwarze not taken him the pick before.

Round 4
I tried to knock out some full-time nominated starters early, but I think it may have bitten me in the long run. I got a good ’85 Dale Murphy here, who will bat leadoff for me.

Round 5
I waffled between ’04 Juan Uribe and ’14 Miguel Cabrera here and ultimately went with Uribe, due to his eligibility at 2B, SS and 3B to give me flexibility. Naturally, Cabrera went before my next pick.

Round 6
Another pick I’m second-guessing in hindsight. However, I was leaning towards 4 offensive teammates at this point, so ’78 Mike Jorgensen brought along high IP, low-walk SP options in Fergie Jenkins and Jon Matlack if I needed to stretch my innings. It also helped improve my draft position a bit.

Round 7
’08 Placido Polanco was the pick here, as I was starting to second-guess using 4 hitter teammates. I pivoted at this point, trying to get enough nominated players in my lineup to use some of my stud teammate RP options.

Round 8
This was undoubtedly my worst pick of the draft. I foolishly went with Sam Bowie ’76 Jack Clark to save some cash (why??) and move back up the draft order a bit. It was ultimately a wasted pick and cost me a stud Jeremy Giambi season, since I was eying ’01 Mark Guthrie with my next pick.

Round 9
I did not like any remaining Rollins seasons and had Uribe with A/B defense at SS, so I went with a high-priced scrub in ’10 Jimmy Rollins to get Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt. Oswalt ended up not making the cut.

Round 10
’00 Mark Guthrie was a no-brainer here, after losing out on Giambi. He brings along a stud Carlos Delgado season, who also happens to be a much-needed lefty bat. Finally a smart pick.

Round 11
I went with ’16 Joe Smith here to get access to a good Mike Trout season, though at this point, I wasn’t sure if I would use Trout or not. Spoiler: I did.

Round 12
I was treading water at this point and trying to accumulate as many teammate options as possible to piece together Frankenstein’s monster for my final roster. ’04 Alan Embree adds no value to my team but brings along Curt Schilling and Keith Foulke. Once again, neither made my final roster. I’m on a roll. This was also my third blunder of the draft regarding Cabrera. It was just me and ronthegenius left for a while. I was waffling again (shocker) on whether to take ’08 Cabrera and get rid of a better hitting teammate to bolster my pitching staff. I decided to let ron decide for me, but once he took ’08 Cabrera with his next pick, I immediately regretted not going that route.

Round 13
’95 Candy Maldonado. Decent bench option. That’s it.

Round 14
’19 Fernando Rodney. Nothingburger.

Round 15
’23 Miguel Cabrera. I’d been eying this version for a while due to his stud RP teammates, Tyler Holton and Tarik Skubal. Skubal ended up making the team due to his great-looking normalized numbers and his 5+IP/G. No performance history yet, so we shall see.

Recap:
I botched this draft badly, mostly by not having the conviction to stick to a plan all the way through. I was far too reactionary, switching back and forth between visions throughout the draft and it left me with a mess of pieces to try and glue together into something somewhat functional.

Ultimately, it came down to figuring out if I should use 5 or 6 pitching teammates. Losing out on ’08 Cabrera effectively made that choice for me, though I still had the option of cobbling together an OF from scraps to improve my pitching staff. I decided the best bet was to just keep my lineup and hope the good pitchers on my staff hold up.

Hitting:
C – ’83 Pena – 580 PA, .301/.338/.435 (B+/A+/A-)
1B – ’00 Delgado – 711 PA, .344/.470/.664 (C+/C+)
2B – ’08 Polanco – 629 PA, .307/.350/.417 (A-/B)
3B – ’04 Pujols – 692 PA, .331/.415/.657 (B/A+ - at 1B)
SS – ’04 Uribe – 553 PA, .283/.327/.506 (A/B-)
OF – ’85 Murphy – 712 PA, .300/.388/.539 (C+/C)
OF – ’16 Trout – 681 PA, .315/.441/.550 (B+/A)
OF – ‘ 04 Edmonds – 612 PA, .301/.418/.643 (B+/B)
UTI – ’18 Kendrick – 160 PA, .303/.331/.474
UTI – ’95 Maldonado – 256 PA, .263/.370/.489 (A-/D-)

Non-Scrub Totals: 5586 PA, .309/.394/.547, 254 HR, 649 BB

Pitching:
SP – ’18 Scherzer – 221 IP, 0.91 WHIP, 12.24 K/9, 2.08 BB/9, 0.94 HR/9
SP – ’10 Lee – 212 IP, 1.00 WHIP, 7.84 K/9, 0.76 BB/9, 0.68 HR/9
SP – ‘ 10 Halladay – 251 IP, 1.04 WHIP, 7.86 K/9, 1.08 BB/9, 0.86 HR/9
SP – ’76 Matlack – 270 IP, 1.12 WHIP, 5.23 K/9, 1.70 BB/9, 0.47 HR/9
SU – ’04 Isringhausen – 76 IP, 1.04 WHIP, 8.49 K/9, 2.75 BB/9, 0.60 HR/9
SU – ’10 Oliver – 62 IP, 1.10 WHIP, 9.49 K/9, 2.19 BB/9, 0.58 HR/9
SU – ’04 Embree – 53 IP, 1.15 WHIP, 6.37 K/9, 1.89 BB/9, 1.20 HR/9
CP – ’23 Skubal – 80 IP, 0.90 WHIP, 11.43 K/9, 1.57 BB/9, 0.45 HR/9

Non-Scrub Totals: 1,225 IP, 1.03 WHIP, 8.36 K/9, 1.57 BB/9, 0.71 HR/9

Ultimately, I decided Skubal was too studly to pass up, though I briefly contemplated using ’04 Schilling instead and rolling with those 5 starters eating as many of my IP as possible. Hopefully I haven’t spread myself too thin. I went with Yankee Stadium I to reduce hits to stretch my IP further. Also, with all my low-walk pitchers and good defense, this should help quite a bit. It’s also -1/-1 in HR to help my pitchers a bit more. My hitters should still produce plenty, with lots of BBs and bombs down the lineup.

I do not have high expectations for this team.
11/15/2023 2:10 PM (edited)
The only pick where you can get the biggest bang for your buck is your initial nominee. Otherwise, you are relying upon the other fifteen very expert users to leave you more than you can grab on your initial pick. It isn’t going to happen with this group. I picked the 2011 version of Cabrera because it was arguably his best year. It also had Verlander’s best year. It had Victor Martinez’s best year. It had Doug Fister’s best year. I could use Martinez at catcher or DH. I could use Miggy at first or more likely as DH and grab one of those powerful left handed first basemen available in the draft.

On November 2nd, I was scheduled to have my second cataract surgery. I had my first cataract surgery on October 16th. I knew that I would have Mr. Magoo eyes for at least the first 48 hours after surgery and the doctors tell you that you will probably be high on the anethesia for that time period. So dont make any major decisions. So going with a high salary nominee I would go to the end of the draft cycle to give me more time to recover. In addition, I prepared my spreadsheets prior to my surgery. I even showed my wife who to pick in case my Mr. Magoo vision was still there when it was my turn.

Then boom what else happened on 11/02/23. We were no longer going to play with a DH. Wow, the timing of the change floored me. Should I still use 2011 Miggy. Maybe but…. I am in preop and laying on the surgical gurney. I am thinking without the DH what will I do. Do I change to Chipper. No even if I choose 1995 I only get Maddux. Do I select 1996? Only Maddux and Smoltz. How about Griffey JR or Arod and then pull in Randy Johnson. No their good seasons don’t matchup. Oops here comes the surgery room. Nighty night.

Sure enough when I got home later that day, I had blurry vision in my right eye because I had no glasses and my left eye had a protective shield from surgery. Only my brain, high on anethesia , trying to use my 15 years of WIS experience to determine a solution. I finally realized just stick with 2011 Cabrera and his three teammates. Any other choice at this point could be a disaster.

Round 1: 2009 SF Uribe.
It pulled in Sandoval who hits .330 and Lincecum with a sub 2.10 ERC# as my third starter. The other choice was an Uribe with a Kershaw. But everyone will have right-handed bats. Or a Colorado Uribe with Walker and Helton. I went for my third baseman and another starter.

Round 2: 2007 Detroit Polanco.
I couldn’t believe a .341 hitter with an A/B+ fielding percentage was still there. I grabbed him. It also had Magglio Ordonez (.363) and Granderson a defense whiz who I eventually couldn’t use.

Round 3: 1991 Boston Jack Clark.
I needed the 272 IP of Roger Clemens. But it cost me an expensive DH only Clark that will only pinch hit for me. Someone picked the 1991 Pena earlier which would have gotten me this Clemens. You gotta do what you gotta do.

Round 4: 2005 STL Jason Isringhausen.
I could use him as my closer but more importantly it brought me the.359 Hittng Albert Pujolis. It ought to be interesting batting Polanco(.341), Cabrera(.344), Pujolis(.359), Ordonez(.363), Sandoval(.330), and Martinez(.330) 2 through 7 in the order. Not the greatest fielding but PLEASE start a lefthander against me.

Round 5: 2011 Anaheim Fernando Rodney
Another hard pick. Rodney is unusable but it rounded out my starting staff with Jeff Weaver.

Round 6: 1990 Candy Maldanado.
This was decision time for me. Do I go with 4 teammate pitchers or 5. I originally wanted the 2007 Granderson with his B/A+ metrics in center but my pitching was woefully short. So I decided to get the best defensive outfielder with decent hitting that was available to me at the time.

Round7: 2005 Jimmy Rollins.
I needed some speed (41 SB). A left handed hitter (He is a switch hitter). A decent average (.290) and a bad fielder (A/D+). Uribe may need to be a late inning fielding substitute (B/C-). This will be the absolute worst fielding team I may ever have had.

The draft was over for me at this point. I just drafted the best RP left on the board before I drafted the scrubs.

SP
91 Clemens 272 IP 2.62 ERA .221 OAV 1.05 WHIP
11 Verlander 251 IP 2.40 ERA .192 OAV .92 WHIP
11 Weaver 235 IP 2.41 ERA .212 OAV 1.01 WHIP
09 Lincecum 225 IP 2.48 ERA .206 OAV 1.05 WHIP
11 Fister 216 IP 2.83 ERA .237 OAV 1.06 WHIP

Pen
03 Isringhausen 42 IP 2.36 ERA .200 OAV 1.17 WHIP 22 Saves
The rest Oh well.

Starting Lineup
SS 05 Rollins 732 PA .290/.338/.431 12 HR 41 SB
2b 07 Polanco 641 PA .341/.388/.458 9 HR
1b 11 Cabrera 688 PA .344/.448/.586 30 HR
LF 03 Pujolis 685 PA .359/.439/.667 43 HR
RF 07 Ordonez 679 PA .363/.434/.595 28 HR
3B 09 Sandoval 633 PA .330/.387/.556 25 HR
C 11 Martinez 595 PA .330/.380/.470 12 HR C+/A/D
CF 90 Maldanado 651 PA .273/.330/.446 20 HR A/C+

Bench
C 88 Pena 546 PA .263/308/.372 A/A-/B+
Inf 09 Uribe 432 PA .289/.329/.495
OF 91 Murphy 599 PA .252/.309/.415
OF 76 Jorgensen 399 PA .254/.349/.344

My first thought was why didn’t the 2011 Tigers win the World Series.

Second thought is I have a pretty good offense for this theme, pretty good starting pitching, terrible fielding, and a bad bullpen. But is my offense and SP better than my relief pitching and fielding are worse than others in this league. I do have 3 switch hitters in my lineup which should help. With 6 Detroit Tigers on my team, I decided to play in their home Comerica park.

I still do not have my new glasses so maybe I am seeing my team through Rose colored eyes. Anyway that is my excuse for poor typing in this writeup. Good luck everyone and remember to pitch those lefties against me.
11/15/2023 6:54 PM
Wow, another monster offense. Thanks for sharing.
11/15/2023 7:07 PM
schwarze, will you have the ability to easily figure out what teammate split everyone used between pitchers/hitters?
11/15/2023 7:11 PM
Here is a table that shows how many pitchers were used as teammates, and their total salary...
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Owner . Pitchers . P - Salary
schwarze 6 51,072,836
footballmm11 6 50,304,480
calhoop 6 48,433,349
njbigwig 6 46,424,630
3dayrotation 5 46,392,441
joerat1 6 45,068,794
PrimetimeTW 5 42,898,866
mllama54 5 42,188,880
cholatse 6 42,100,325
happyhours 5 41,022,897
pedrocerrano 5 40,062,773
BeAllEndAll 5 39,832,890
eblankenstei 5 39,314,284
ronthegenius 4 36,817,985
grayfoxx 6 34,855,497
Jtpsops 5 33,506,623
Average 5.375 42,518,597
11/15/2023 7:21 PM
Same chart, except with teammate hitters...
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Owner . Hitters . H - Salary
ronthegenius 5 40,992,035
3dayrotation 4 39,697,747
PrimetimeTW 4 35,955,249
Jtpsops 4 34,150,074
eblankenstei 4 32,481,261
pedrocerrano 4 31,477,694
BeAllEndAll 4 29,498,169
njbigwig 3 29,011,291
grayfoxx 3 28,080,022
mllama54 4 26,948,930
calhoop 3 23,907,821
footballmm11 3 23,774,567
happyhours 4 23,683,558
cholatse 3 23,115,398
schwarze 3 19,249,717
joerat1 3 16,223,298
Average 3.625 28,640,427
11/15/2023 7:27 PM
All teammates.
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Owner . H & P . Total Salary
3dayrotation 9 86,090,188
PrimetimeTW 9 78,854,115
ronthegenius 9 77,810,020
njbigwig 9 75,435,921
footballmm11 9 74,079,047
calhoop 9 72,341,170
eblankenstei 9 71,795,545
pedrocerrano 9 71,540,467
schwarze 9 70,322,553
BeAllEndAll 9 69,331,059
mllama54 9 69,137,810
Jtpsops 9 67,656,697
cholatse 9 65,215,723
happyhours 9 64,706,455
grayfoxx 9 62,935,519
joerat1 9 61,292,092
Average 9 71,159,024
11/15/2023 7:32 PM
Oh wow, more hitters than I thought. Very cool, thank you
11/15/2023 7:34 PM
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