Posted by Mwett on 11/8/2024 1:47:00 AM (view original):
Okay, I took a couple days to decompress, caught a couple updates and today stuff, and my rational logical this-is-where-we-are final thought is this : In addition to some decent points already made here how Dems failed and how maybe they can turn some of it around by pulling their heads out, they also quite simply need to stop being weird and too many other who blindly follow it. It had been my hope that a different Rep would've been the one to fix it 4 or 8 years from now, but since it's on track to happen sooner than later, thank you Jesus for saving our kids. Stop being okay with being weird y'all

On the possible bad side, pray for our retirement and necessary hard earned with decades of blood sweat tears to continue to have a positive impact into our twilight time, which isn't the same as free this-n-that for lazy do-nothings or who just showed up and demand where's mine where's mine. Jimmy Kimmel is a sissy girly girl and Whoopi continues to be Whoopi

First, I agree with what you are saying here almost 100%. Second, just to be clear, I posted my comment not as a democrat. Quite the contrary, I am a classic liberal. The US needs a viable Democratic Party so that we do not have one-party rule, which is not healthy no matter which party it is.

The democrats played a stupid game and are paying for it. By following Marxist tenets, with which so-called identity politics is a basic theme (although Marx never used that term,) they are losing ground in almost every demographic. Why did Latino and black men vote for Trump? - misogyny. Why did married women vote for Trump? - they are oppresed by their husbands. Why did whites for for Trump? - racism. This is the rhetoric which cost them the election. The real reason they lost ground in those demographics was because they had a crap candidate who ran a crap campaign with crap messaging like the nonsense above.

That idea of a permanent revolution where small groups constantly topple the existing power structure by following distinct and unwavering agendas that are intentionally written to make demands on government that are more that it can possibly yield without risking collapse (the whole point of the extreme agendas in the first place) was a theoretical idea by Marx that has never been sucessfully implemented...yet the ignorant Marxist today, who has probably never read Marx, doesn't appreciate that The Communist Manifesto was nothing more than a commissioned piece - in other words, Marx was a writer making a living. The useful idiots that were the Communits League back in the 1840s made payment and ran with it because they needed a casus belli to justify their revolutions and the Manifesto was the only one they had. They never bothered to sit back and analyze whether or not it was even feasable. Here's a hint - it was not. It caused a bunch of death and destruction in 1848 and then promptly failed. It was also written for Europeans, used to living under totalitarian regimes, not for a nation that has a very long tradition of freedom and individualism like the United States. Pro hint - this is why Marxists label conservatives and Trump as a dictator/Monarchist/totalitarian. They need to fit their opponent in Marxist terms or the rationale behind the Manifesto completely falls apart. It doesn't matter to them whether or not it is an accurate description.

I honestly hope they jettison the cancer that is Marxism and return to something resembling capitalists that want a large welfare state...not my cup of tea but at least it is something resembling sanity that American voters could accept as an alternative to keep the conservatives in line.

I'm sorry to interrupt the sociological babble, BUT there is NOTHING sane about poor rural folks "identifying" with Trump as their savior and voting for someone who knows so little about their lives, NOR is their anything Conservative about Donald Trump OR his policies.

The American people have now officially abandoned their OWN rule of Law and will pay the price for it.
The clock is ticking and the Ukraine is likely to be the 1st casualty..........that is after our own Freedom.

Posted by laramiebob on 11/8/2024 11:53:00 AM (view original):
I'm sorry to interrupt the sociological babble, BUT there is NOTHING sane about poor rural folks "identifying" with Trump as their savior and voting for someone who knows so little about their lives, NOR is their anything Conservative about Donald Trump OR his policies.

The American people have now officially abandoned their OWN rule of Law and will pay the price for it.
The clock is ticking and the Ukraine is likely to be the 1st casualty..........that is after our own Freedom.

I like you, bob, but this is (once again) why the Democratic Party got thrashed. Party leaders spout rhetoric but their base takes it literally, missing the point that rhetorical speech is figurative.

The Democratic-controlled DOJ suspended all cases against Trump today and the Democratic-controlled White House is going to meet with him about a transition. If Trump was all that, why is the Democratic Party helping him take over in January?

...unless they're ALL in on it? It's not just the American people, it's our own government and your Party too? Gosh, the Democratic Party is in power right now and they are colluding with the monster, the Hitler, the dictator.

I guess it is the Democratic Party's fault for everything we are about to "lose."

It is ALL the people's fault (voters). The Dem. PARTY didn't do them many favors, perhaps.
As for "colluding" with the monster.
They are following the LAW and doing their Constitutional Duty.

Precisely what I fear the New guy (OLD guy, convicted FELON---Tell the JURORS Otherwise!!) won't DO.!!

Which puts our Republic at grave risk.
You SHOULD understand that given that you CLAIM to be a classic Liberal.

Merle Haggard said "I hope we make it thru December"
Me too!!
But we have 4 more years to "make it thru".
I THINK I can do it. Can you?
Bigger question is Can our Republic survive it.
Ask me in 2029 IF you can...................

Posted by laramiebob on 11/9/2024 11:36:00 AM (view original):
It is ALL the people's fault (voters). The Dem. PARTY didn't do them many favors, perhaps.
As for "colluding" with the monster.
They are following the LAW and doing their Constitutional Duty.

Precisely what I fear the New guy (OLD guy, convicted FELON---Tell the JURORS Otherwise!!) won't DO.!!

Which puts our Republic at grave risk.
You SHOULD understand that given that you CLAIM to be a classic Liberal.

Merle Haggard said "I hope we make it thru December"
Me too!!
But we have 4 more years to "make it thru".
I THINK I can do it. Can you?
Bigger question is Can our Republic survive it.
Ask me in 2029 IF you can...................

I am a Classic Liberal but you can believe what you wish.

Interesting why the courts, the DOJ, the military, the executive branch, Congress, the Democratic Party and every one else would work with a person who is, according to V.P. Kamala Harris, "worse than Hitler." Trump isn't even the president-elect at this point. He's just Mr. Monster. He doesn't become President-elect until the Electoral College votes in December.

Therefore, you can still follow the Constitution and keep prosecuting Mr. Monster up to and including Inaguration day in late January. There is nothing in the Constitution that prevents continued legal action. But, then again, this past Wednesday, Harris conceded after calling the guy "worse than Hitler" for weeks. Why is all of government, controlled by the Democrats, going to help a monster become President in a couple of months? Why would somebody, Constitution or no Constitution, concede to a monster? Why will Congress certify an election if the monster who is coming into office is "worse than Hitler" and led an insurrection? Insurrectionists are not allowed to hold office per the Constitution...and you are the one claiming you are following the Constitution. Fine, bar him and do your Constitutional duty.

...unless it is all for show to motivate people to vote a certain way, unless it is all political theatre and rhetoric, unless it is all propaganda.

The better question, IMHO, is why do people believe the lie?

I guess I'll post here for a bit longer just because I find it amazing that people...intelligent people...believe in lies.

This is a problem with both sets of the Americans for Dummies movement. If you listen to far-right talk shows, a common theme is how Obama destroyed America. Notice the use of past tense. Obama, through the unaffordable care act and his race-baiting policies didn't help, but the far-right honestly believes that he destroyed the nation. So, if America is destroyed, how can Trump Make America Great Again? It's already dust, going on 9 years now. Do Republicans believe the nation is going to undergo some kind of resurrection? That would fit the religious zealot's value system but, for those that can think, once the use of past tense is used, discussing the same entity (The USA) in the present and future tenses is lunacy.

So how can Republicans engage in such double-think? The nation is destroyed but it can simultaneously be saved if we elect candidate X. George Orwell would be proud. It's all propaganda, my ignorant conservative friends. The Republicans are lying to you and have been for decades. It's nothing but emotional triggering to control your actions when you go to vote on election day.

Now, let's talk about the Marxist left. They have some beauties like the Trump is worse than Hitler garbage but let's focus on the biggest lie that they have been perpetuating for generations - climate catastrophism. Back in the 70s, we were all going to freeze to death. Going back and watching documentaries about the coming new Ice Age is almost better than watching Monty Python. In the 80s they switched to global warming and we were going to all fry. Move to the 2000s and Gore's inconvenient truth was nothing but a joke since every prediction in the book has timed out and we're still around doing just fine. It was such a messaging catastrophe they had to change the name from global warming to climate change. Even recently, Sandy Cortez and her dire warning when she first was elected to Congress in 2018 was that we had 6-8 years or everything was OVER if we didn't change right now. Well, I guess it is all over because the 6-8 year period is halfway through and the Paris Accords and the Green New Deal has been a laugh-fest considering China and India, the biggest polluters on the planet, could care less about carbon emissions and are exempt...like the planet cares only about European and American carbon but has a blind eye to Asian pollutants. The Asian stuff is much better, you see...

So, both left and right, if you look at issues logically rather than as a hothead, what politicians tell the American public is nothing more than total BS...yet here we are with clowns to the left and jokers to the right believing in all of the nonsense that they see on TV and hear in their echo chambers. So why do people believe in lies when they are so easily refuted?

Your climate change opinion is just real stupid.
Ostridge like stupid.

EVERY legitimate climatologist on the Globe can explain it to you.
Me, I'm actually living it.
I live in the SW.
Where are you?

Some bubble where you don't see weather?

So how do you fix it?

Posted by laramiebob on 11/9/2024 5:16:00 PM (view original):
Your climate change opinion is just real stupid.
Ostridge like stupid.

EVERY legitimate climatologist on the Globe can explain it to you.
Me, I'm actually living it.
I live in the SW.
Where are you?

Some bubble where you don't see weather?

That's the problem, bob. There is a difference between weather and climate. Notice the logic at play. Only legitimate climatologists subscribe to the theory. Everyone who disagrees is, therefore, illegitimate. No actual scientific facts presented other than stating that you live in the SW, as if that is evidence of anything. Good show.

Besides, my point was to the politicisation of a scientific theory, not the theory itself. However, that is a nuance that a true believer couldn't appreciate. That's why I mention Al Gore and AOC - not a climatologist among them, only leeches making coin off of fearmongering.

Regardless, I was wanting to have adult discussions with fellow WIS members and not resort to personal attacks but that's not really possible around here, isn't it. Everyone takes their own subjective politics so very personally that they can't stand to hear a differing opinion. Sounds like politics in general these days.

Take care.

Posted by bagchucker4 on 11/9/2024 8:19:00 PM (view original):
switch to silicon life forms

1. move all our software from brains to the cloud
2. build little silicon nanobots
3. stack em like legos
4. move all our software from the cloud to the silicon

a good fascist would drop step four

that we all may be slaves to the innernet

lot less carbon

all our kids we will name Rocky and Sandy