BOWIS Wildcard - The Albatross Topic

2025 BOWIS Tournament
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The Albatross Draft

Rules:

1. No clones, rookies, or waiver wire. $48M Cap.

2. Each user is responsible for drafting and managing a team that remains in compliance with the league rules.

3. 3 exclusive drafted players, plus 9 non-exclusive undrafted players. The 3 exclusive drafted players must be from the Albatross list below. The 9 non-exclusive undrafted players may be any player not selected in the draft. Each user must use their drafted players. If an albatross has more than one available season from the given year, the highest salary version of the player must be used.

4. Draft Sequence: ABB.

5. Draft order: Draft lottery will use the New York Lottery. Each user will be given a time slot. The first three numbers drawn during that time slot will be your score. Lowest score will be number 1 and so on. Ties will be broken by whoever has the lowest 4th number.

6. A posted pick is FINAL. No changing picks after a selection is posted. If an ineligible selection is made, the draft will continue on and the user who made the selection will have to make another pick. Other users do not have to wait for the makeup pick to be made.

7. During the draft, site mail the next 2 users on the schedule after making your pick, or state that you cannot site mail and somebody will take care of it.

8. Draft will be on the clock. 24 hour rule in place.

9. Trades are allowed, but only for entire draft slots, not individual picks.

10. Divisions: Divisions will be random.

11. During the draft, please refrain from mentioning undrafted players.

12. Any playoff game where a typical "Best Player" plays more than 50% less minutes than their min/82 (exceptions to be made for foul trouble) will be considered a tank game. Users are not allowed to tank a playoff game.

"Best Players" are defined as the players any reasonable user would clearly play if they were trying to win.

13. The "Commissioner" may take control of any team refusing to comply with the league rules. A warning will be issued in the league forum and a sitemail, after which the user has 3 games to comply. All games in violation are 'losses'.

14. Commissioner: benhoidal

users: 24kpyrite; steelers821; riftonapple; M6speed; dBKC; PBandJ; berkelon; chewy3344; dh555; Sephy13; samuelyork93; jcred5; jhsukow; raggedclaws; jethroeg; BenJoker; Midge; robusk; beloud; jackedjamie; lukemikk; pexetera; 20ks; benhoidal
1/30/2025 8:50 AM (edited)
Draft Pool
Last Name First Name Year Team
Abdur-Rahim Shareef 96-97 Grizzlies
Anderson Kenny 93-94 Nets
Anthony Carmelo 03-04 Nuggets
Barry Rick 65-66 Warriors
Baylor Elgin 66-67 Lakers
Billups Chauncey 03-04 Pistons
Bing Dave 73-74 Pistons
Bridges Bill 70-71 Hawks
Calvin Mack 70-71 Floridians
Carr Austin 72-73 Cavaliers
Carrier Darel 67-68 Colonels
Carroll Joe Barry 85-86 Warriors
Cummings Terry 88-89 Bucks
Cunningham Billy 74-75 76ers
Dampier Louie 69-70 Colonels
Davis Antonio 01-02 Raptors
DeRozan DeMar 12-13 Raptors
Embry Wayne 63-64 Royals
Finley Michael 98-99 Mavericks
Francis Steve 04-05 Magic
Freeman Donnie 69-70 Floridians
Goodrich Gail 68-69 Suns
Grant Horace 97-98 Magic
Greer Hal 63-64 76ers
Hayward Gordon 13-14 Jazz
Haywood Spencer 75-76 Knicks
Holiday Jrue 12-13 76ers
Iverson Allen 99-00 76ers
Jackson Mark 87-88 Knicks
Jamison Antawn 00-01 Warriors
Johnson Joe 03-04 Suns
Johnson John 71-72 Cavaliers
Jones Jimmy 67-68 Buccaneers
Jones Sam 64-65 Celtics
Jones Wil 71-72 Pros
Kerr John 63-64 76ers
Keye Julius 70-71 Rockets
Kojis Don 68-69 Rockets
Lacey Sam 75-76 Kings
Larusso Rudy 67-68 Warriors
Lewis Freddie 68-69 Pacers
Ligon Goose 68-69 Colonels
Love Bob 72-73 Bulls
Maravich Pete 76-77 Jazz
Marbury Stephon 97-98 Timberwolves
Mashburn Jamal 02-03 Hornets
McGinnis George 75-76 76ers
Monroe Earl 68-69 Bullets
Naulls Willie 61-62 Knicks
Petrie Geoff 70-71 Trail Blazers
Pierce Paul 03-04 Celtics
Randolph Zach 13-14 Grizzlies
Richmond Mitch 98-99 Wizards
Robbins Red 70-71 Stars
Robinson Truck 77-78 Jazz
Rose Jalen 02-03 Bulls
Rule Bob 69-70 SuperSonics
Scott Charlie 71-72 Squires
Sikma Jack 80-81 SuperSonics
Simpson Ralph 71-72 Rockets
Somerset Willie 68-69 Nets
Sprewell Latrell 01-02 Knicks
Stackhouse Jerry 96-97 76ers
Stoudamire Damon 96-97 Raptors
Strickland Rod 97-98 Wizards
Thomas Isiah 86-87 Pistons
Van Arsdale Dick 68-69 Suns
Van Arsdale Tom 70-71 Royals
Verga Bob 69-70 Cougars
Walker Antoine 02-03 Celtics
Webber Chris 05-06 76ers
White Jo Jo 75-76 Celtics
Wicks Sidney 73-74 Trail Blazers
Wilkens Lenny 68-69 SuperSonics
2/4/2025 12:37 PM (edited)
1st Round Monday 2-3
1. chewy3344 - Horace Grant
2. Sephy13 - Bill Bridges
3. lukemikk - Red Robbins
4. berkelon - Wil Jones
5. 24kpyrite - Terry Cummings
6. steelers821 - Chauncey Billups
7. jhsukow - Goose Ligon
8. M6speed - Sam Lacey
9. beloud - Gordon Hayward
10. Midge - Jack Sikma
11. samuelyork93 - Allen Iverson
12. robusk - Elgin Baylor
13. pexetera - Zach Randolph
14. dBKC - Dave Bing
15. jcred5 - Sidney Wicks
16. jethroeg - Spencer Haywood
17. PBandJ - Jrue Holiday
18. 20ks - Julius Keye
19. raggedclaws - Rick Barry
20. BenJoker - Mark Jackson
21. riftonapple - Billy Cunningham
22. jackedjamie - John Kerr
23. dh555 - John Johnson
24. benhoidal - Rudy Larusso

2nd Round Tuesday 2-4
1. benhoidal - Antonio Davis
2. dh555 - Wayne Embry
3. jackedjamie - DeMar DeRozan
4. riftonapple - Shareef Abdur-Rahim
5. BenJoker - Joe Barry Carroll
6. raggedclaws - Rod Strickland
7. 20ks - Kenny Anderson
8. PBandJ - Jo Jo White
9. jethroeg - Paul Pierce
10. jcred5 - Sam Jones
11. dBKC - George McGinnis
12. pexetera - Chris Webber
13. robusk - Lenny Wilkens
14. samuelyork93 - Pete Maravich
15. Midge - Hal Greer
16. beloud - Bob Rule
17. M6speed - Isiah Thomas
18. jhsukow - Donnie Freeman
19. steelers821 - Willie Naulls
20. 24kpyrite - Jamal Mashburn
21. berkelon - Truck Robinson
22. lukemikk - Damon Stoudemire
23. Sephy13 - Jimmy Jones
24. chewy3344 - Bob Love

3rd Round Wednesday 2-5
1. benhoidal - Stephon Marbury
2. dh555 - Don Kojis
3. jackedjamie - Joe Johnson
4. riftonapple - Dick Van Arsdale
5. BenJoker - Austin Carr
6. raggedclaws - Louie Dampier
7. 20ks - Latrell Sprewell
8. PBandJ - Jalen Rose
9. jethroeg - Michael Finley
10. jcred5 - Ralph Simpson
11. dBKC - Carmelo Anthony
12. pexetera - Steve Francis
13. robusk - Geoff Petrie
14. samuelyork93 - Charlie Scott
15. Midge - Antoine Walker
16. beloud - Earl Monroe
17. M6speed - Jerry Stackhouse
18. jhsukow - Tom Van Arsdale
19. steelers821 - Freddie Lewis
20. 24kpyrite - Darel Carrier
21. berkelon - Gail Goodrich
22. lukemikk - Mitch Ritchmond
23. Sephy13 - Bob Verga
24. chewy3344 - Antawn Jamison
2/4/2025 12:37 PM (edited)
Get teams in by Monday 2-10
1/26/2025 10:11 PM (edited)
Draft Lottery

Friday, 1-31, 8 PM, EST
https://nylottery.ny.gov/all-winning-numbers

8:00 - benhoidal - 49 (25)
8:04 - 24kpyrite - 12 (23)
8:08 - steelers821 - 13 (8)
8:12 - riftonapple - 40 (23)
8:16 - M6speed - 14 (15)
8:20 - dBKC - 22 (12)
8:24 - PBandJ - 26 (27)
8:28 - berkelon - 12 (16)
8:32 - chewy3344 - 8 (7)
8:36 - 20ks - 28 (24)
8:40 - dh555 - 47 (23)
8:44 - Sephy13 - 10 (11)
8:48 - samuelyork93 - 19 (15)
8:52 - jcred5 - 23 (11)
8:56 - jhsukow - 13 (9)
9:00 - raggedclaws - 34 (21)
9:04 - jethroeg - 26 (26)
9:08 - BenJoker - 34 (22)
9:12 - Midge - 16 (12)
9:16 - robusk - 21 (15,17,20)
9:20 - beloud - 15 (9)
9:24 - jackedjamie - 42 (22)
9:28 - lukemikk - 11 (7)
9:32 - pexetera - 21 (15,17,22)

The first 3 numbers drawn from your time slot is your score. The lowest score gets #1 and so on. Ties will be broken by whoever has the lower 4th number drawn.
1/31/2025 9:55 PM (edited)
This looks awesome!! What a great idea. I love getting to use and see players that you don't normally see play.
1/26/2025 6:12 PM
I have a question about Albatross players who played for multiple teams in the season. I'm assuming we must use the highest minutes?
1/26/2025 9:11 PM
Posted by Sephy13 on 1/26/2025 9:11:00 PM (view original):
I have a question about Albatross players who played for multiple teams in the season. I'm assuming we must use the highest minutes?
Yes
1/26/2025 9:18 PM
Should the albatross player pool consist of all "albatross" players or be a mix of good, decent, and bad players?
Votes: 20
(Last vote received: 2/10/2025 12:21 PM)
1/26/2025 10:09 PM
I think Beloud should pick the players. I’m not sure how to express that in a vote.
1/26/2025 10:28 PM
Posted by jhsukow on 1/26/2025 10:28:00 PM (view original):
I think Beloud should pick the players. I’m not sure how to express that in a vote.
I agree
1/26/2025 10:54 PM
Posted by riftonapple on 1/26/2025 10:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by jhsukow on 1/26/2025 10:28:00 PM (view original):
I think Beloud should pick the players. I’m not sure how to express that in a vote.
I agree
I too support the theme selector picking the players.

But we also have to respect the premise. Going with the albatross league and then picking players with 50 def, 58.4% ts%, 7.7 to% with very good rebounding and passing for their position at high usage is not really sticking within the terms of the premise.

And that is just one example among many.

Otherwise let's just change the theme to the beloud player pool league and do away with the cover.
1/26/2025 11:19 PM (edited)
I agree there's some guys that stand out, not sure where to draw the line. Haven't finished my prep, they guy Rob mentions yes. There's a few others. I was looking at some general $ per minute as a guide - but even that can be misleading.
1/26/2025 11:13 PM
I'm interested in seeing more modern players that haven't played many years, But they can't be too good, like Shai or Luka. Wemby or Chet? Sounds fun to me.
1/27/2025 1:47 AM
Posted by BenJoker on 1/27/2025 1:47:00 AM (view original):
I'm interested in seeing more modern players that haven't played many years, But they can't be too good, like Shai or Luka. Wemby or Chet? Sounds fun to me.
Well 1) that isn’t what this theme is, is it? And 2) we literally have a league that uses only the last two seasons in BOWIS.
1/27/2025 7:09 AM
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