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if you could send me a site mail so i could discuss something about my team -- im a newer coach,, and have some questions for my next game
11/14/2009 2:34 AM
What's your question.
11/14/2009 2:46 AM
i would like to have someone look at my team (ranked #9) however each game has been wildly sloppy, (im in IBA div3) at illinois Wesleyan, my second season firsrt year went 17-13. am wondering when gameplanning for the each game what are some good stratigies for shots vrs certain players on opposite teams
11/14/2009 2:50 AM
You can probably mess around with tempos the next 2 games or so from what i gather your big guys like my rhode island team in wooden dont handle the ball well my team has sucked but your team looks real good so far. Benjamin has great handles 6.8 apg, 1 turnover per game. Gameplanning vs other teams defensively i wouldnt change you are only allowing a touch over 40 ppg. while scoring over 60 thats superb team defense.
11/14/2009 2:59 AM
yea i like my def, its my shot selection im not to happy about, iv had 2 games that in the second half the other team only scored 4 and 8 points each, however in my last game the other team outscored me, iv played around with the shooters a lil bit , who gets shots who doesnt,, mainly based on the other teams def vrs the position. is that a good stratagy? give more shots to the guy who plays against a crappy defender?
11/14/2009 3:02 AM
yeah coach , or whoever has a hot hand so far this season for you shooting percentage wise. Like i said you have 3 games coming you should kill the sim coach you can mess around a little with guys getting shots until you find a good system sometimes you will have halves where they might outscore you the key is to pound them into submission like you pretty much have done all season in the first half.
11/14/2009 3:09 AM
yea, im thinking of giving wilkey some shots (i did that in 3 games thus far, and seemed to be the best 3 games iv played, mainly iv stuck with my 1st sg and 2nd sg as my main scorers, giving def inside guys a shot based on matchups thus far,

thanks for your experiance suggestions, im still learning the ins and outs of this, but i like my team,, i just feel like i should be pounding them by even more..
11/14/2009 3:12 AM
in the last game i gave prestwood more shots, but it seemed to hold up my def in the second half as he got more minutes.
11/14/2009 3:14 AM
Against good teams, pumping up one player's distro significantly can lead to turnover problems. You can move players around in slots - i.e. play the SF at PF, PF at C, SG at PG, etc, so your opponents never know who might be matching up with who - just makes you tougher to defend.
11/14/2009 6:43 AM
thats a good idea treyomo.. thanks .. cant believe i didnt think of that.. -- i guess i kinda thought it may not be a best idea to play people out of position... but iv been reading the guides posted here and see that it can be done
11/14/2009 7:02 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By coachcaluk on 11/14/2009thats a good idea treyomo.. thanks .. cant believe i didnt think of that.. -- i guess i kinda thought it may not be a best idea to play people out of position... but iv been reading the guides posted here and see that it can be don


I switch players around quite a bit. Don't worry what about what their labeled position is, go by the ratings. I've had PG's and C's playing SF, and one season I actually got away with playing a SG at PF (got knocked out of the NT in the Sweet Sixteen). Of course, the SG's overall rating ended up being over 1000, so he was kind of the ultimate exception to the rule!
11/14/2009 3:39 PM
hey fellas,

one thing i think you gotta do when evaluating any team, is look at the opponent.

you guys are totally ignoring the fact that caluk has played maybe the worst schedule in all of ibaD3. im not trying to hate on caluk. i have forgotten to schedule my noncon games several times. it happens. But lets not make comments on how good his defense has been based on 6 games versus outmanned-simmy-coached teams.

that highlights one of the problems with a weak schedule.... its hard to evaluate your lineup decisions, and thus any tweaking you do is not as accurate as it could be. thats not really a big deal for an experienced coach, expecially when he has been at the same school for a number of years. But in your case i would agree that tweaking and strategy adjustments need to be taking place now to maximize your chances at an NT run. which, should clearly be the goal for a team with 6 seniors and 4 juniors.

the other problem with a weak schedule, is that your SOS will be abbysmal. as long as you are winning, thats not really a big problem. but you play in a conference with several coaches who are pretty darned good and look to have good teams this season.

Lets break down your season..

17 games versus simmys and nearyl all have losing records. I think you need to win 16 of these. bad luck will likely cause you to lose one.

your nine games versus humans, and i think all need to be respected and could beat you. i think you need to go 5-4 versus these guys to have a 21-5 record and, i think, to just sneak into the NT. and that wont be easy. north park (in the other division) is coming off a final4 appearance and will be tough to beat. in your own division, augustana has been consistently good, winning three striaght division titles and intent on winning a fourth. if you can find the right strategies for your team, it should be a good battle between the two of you (or maybe even a 3way battle, as im not sure that ncentral or carthage might not have something to say about this issue as well.)

okay, one last thing. forget about the #9 ranking. the wisrankings are going to give the benefit of the doubt to teams with alot of upperclassmen, and as long as you stay undefeated, you will keep your ranking. and its even possible that if you end up 21-5 you will be on the fringe of the top 25. and that will help your seed, assuming you make the NT. but to make the NT you will need to have an rpi of about 50 or so at worst, and, like i said, that wont be easy with the schedule you have.

hope that doesnt put too much of a damper on things, caluk, just trying to be realistic
11/14/2009 11:05 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By treyomo on 11/14/2009Against good teams, pumping up one player's distro significantly can lead to turnover problems. You can move players around in slots - i.e. play the SF at PF, PF at C, SG at PG, etc, so your opponents never know who might be matching up with who - just makes you tougher to defend
all true.

but, we might want to define what is "significantly upping a players distro"

if you let your total distro equal 100 (or at least 90) then I think 20 is an appropriate maximum distro . above that, you may experience some of the negatives trey mentions. if you have particularly good scorer with a great matchup (versus a weak defender) i think you can up that to 25 or so without too much problem. but any higher than that invites problems, imo. (note that i have seen coaches give every bit of their distro to two players and be successful, but i wouldnt advise that unless you know what you are doing)
11/14/2009 11:13 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By coachcaluk on 11/14/2009yea i like my def, its my shot selection im not to happy about, iv had 2 games that in the second half the other team only scored 4 and 8 points each, however in my last game the other team outscored me, iv played around with the shooters a lil bit , who gets shots who doesnt,, mainly based on the other teams def vrs the position. is that a good stratagy? give more shots to the guy who plays against a crappy defender
yes, i think that is a good strategy. although some top coaches disagree and feel you should get comfortable with a certain lineup and then make your opponents adjust to you.

also, make sure you pay attention to what defense your opponent is playing. if they are man2man, then the above is a good strategy. against a press, i also look for ath and sp mismatches that can be exploited. against a zone, you gotta throw all the matchups out the window and decide if you have perimeter shooters who might exploit the zone, especially if they are prone to sagging into a minus position.

11/14/2009 11:24 PM
hmmm..

i just noticed something that should have jumped out at me before..

you are giving nearly all of your distro to two players (starting SG and backup SG)

now, the starting SG I can almost understand. his numbers actually seem pretty good despite his high distro (42% FG3, and about 50% overall) but, remember, he is playing against really bad defenses, he never sees a double team, etc.

I have seen this strategy work to some extent, but in the end I do not think it is as effective as a more "normal" distro, and worse i think it is very risky.

in any event, lets look at the backup SG, kuhn. You must decrease his distro. he is killing you. you have several players who are better offensive options than him...way better. there is nothing in his ratings that suggests a great scorer. and there is certainly nothing in his statistics.

One thing that may not be as widely known as i had thought... in HoopsDynasty, the higher a player's distro, the lower his shooting percentage. the lower a player's distro, the higher his shooting percentage. I guess that in real life you would see this to some degree as well, but not nearly to the degree that you see it in HD.

So, TAKE ADVANTAGE of this fact. try to find the most effective distro's for each player.

here is my suggestion, which is just a starting point. it will need to change depending on matchups and opposing defenses , and you may choose to be more or less extreme... but it is a start..

  • benjamin 15
  • ingram,j 20
  • prestwood 8
  • ingram, l 8
  • wilkey 13
  • ***************
  • stabile 5
  • kuhn 8
  • keeling 5
  • leite 14
  • bilbo 3
  • pederson 1
also, I would question the use of bilbo over keeling. I would prefer keeling. and might even start him at SF depending on matchups and would give serious thought if facing pressDE. I would also think about starting leite, though im not sure who i would remove. the good news is you have good depth...USE IT!

i would tinker with the above distro's especially if some of the players on the low end are maintaining really high shooting% (in that case i would increase distro) or if their shooting percentage drops below 40% or so (then i would have to think seriously about decreasing distro for them)



11/15/2009 12:44 AM
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