Unresponsive frustrating owner (updated) Topic

sanderbear
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In the private world I commish, we have a rule -- explained each season, and agreed to by all owners -- that owners must maintain their minors. No massive pitching fatigue. No pitchers used as position players or vice versa.

Generally, it's not a problem. Almost universally, the owners quickly and positively respond to my trade chats.

One first-season owner, however, has 27 0 (0) guys (majors and minors) and makes two or three roster moves a day, which isn't enough. He doesn't sign tryout camp guys. He hasn't signed any of his draft picks. And of late, he hasn't responded to my trade chats or sitemails.

He's also annoyed other owners by trotting out 0 (0) guys, and by not responding to trade offers or trade chats.

He isn't abandoning his team. Just damaging it. I've already told him that his stay in our league is going to be short (hoped he'd allow me to replace him, but no dice).

I'm venting, I know. But this sort of situation is so frustrating. Dealing with an abandoned team is easy. This isn't.
1/28/2010 9:03 PM
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And the worst part is he will screw up the prospects coming up because ultimately at least a few will get hurt if they keep playing with 0(0). This will only make it worse for the owner coming in and set them even further back. Admin should take more control of these situations and have something in place where you can replace the owner even though he is still checking in.
1/28/2010 9:52 PM
tecwrg
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Send in a ticket. ADMIN has been known to allow replacement of a non-abandoned, yet negligent and unresponsive owner.
1/28/2010 9:56 PM
sanderbear
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Done. Thanks for the tip.
1/28/2010 10:20 PM
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Going through that right now. And they said they would probably allow me to replace the owner if I've given him several chances.. (Over a week notice and non returned Tc's)
1/28/2010 11:41 PM
sanderbear
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That's where I'm at. I've sent five similar sitemails, and five trade chats, asking him to sign draftees or tryout camp pitchers, activate/deactivate and promote/demote as necessary, and respond to trade offers.

It's been more than two weeks of messages.
1/29/2010 9:43 AM
sergei91
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who is the owner?

we need to know
1/29/2010 9:44 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By timf on 1/28/2010And the worst part is he will screw up the prospects coming up because ultimately at least a few will get hurt if they keep playing with 0(0). This will only make it worse for the owner coming in and set them even further back. Admin should take more control of these situations and have something in place where you can replace the owner even though he is still checking in


It's entirely possible that he doesn't have any prospects. Or that none of his pitchers at 0(0) are prospects.
1/29/2010 9:46 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/29/2010
Quote: Originally Posted By timf on 1/28/2010
And the worst part is he will screw up the prospects coming up because ultimately at least a few will get hurt if they keep playing with 0(0). This will only make it worse for the owner coming in and set them even further back. Admin should take more control of these situations and have something in place where you can replace the owner even though he is still checking in.



It's entirely possible that he doesn't have any prospects. Or that none of his pitchers at 0(0) are prospects.
potential or not - common courtesy is to answer your mail - unfortunately my experience is that owners often take an ostrich approach to their teams problems in HBD. They will not even pick up their mail, never mind answer it. If your team can not be good the least you can be is courteous - someone might even be trying to help you, but you won't know if you never pick up your mail
1/29/2010 10:06 AM
MikeT23
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I wasn't commenting on a lack of response just that he may not be ruining prospects at all.
1/29/2010 10:08 AM
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Had a similar problem in one of my leagues this year. An owner had his AAA team at 15-120 with multiple 0 fatigue guys. I mentioned it to him in a trade chat and got no response, so I mentioned it in league chat. At that point he said he would take care of it. Matter settled, except that another owner jumped on me, telling me it was none of my business and the minors don't mean anything anyway. That it doesn't affect his ML team and mind my own business. BTW, his ML team is one of the better teams in the league. And both he and the guy who jumped on me built their teams almost exclusively thru free agency, with not much put into the draft or IFAs and high player budgets. So I guess the MiL doesn't mean much to them. I have seen quite a few low minors teams fall into the fatigue trap, but I had never seen a AAA team neglected like that. After all, it's usually where you have your stock of soon to be MLers.
1/29/2010 10:13 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 1/29/2010
I wasn't commenting on a lack of response just that he may not be ruining prospects at all.

Of the 28 pitchers who are 0 (0) as of today's PM game, 4 are among his top 10 prospects. Another two are major leaguers aged 25 and 21 (the 21-yo was among his top 10 prospects pre-season -- promoted prematurely, IMHO.)
1/29/2010 11:01 AM
sanderbear
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Torrone, we have a league-wide rule, explained to every new owner and reiterated on the world chat before every season starts.
1/29/2010 11:02 AM
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The other sad thing about this is that this is a team that won the WS in S10, and from S1 to S12 averaged about 100 wins, via two owners.

The major-league team is still talented, although it's only pace for about 70 wins right now, due to mismanagement.
1/29/2010 11:09 AM
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Screening process?
1/29/2010 11:20 AM
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